I'm not sure credit matters in these cases. Teams are always going to be looking at the guys under a McVay or a Shanahan. If you're Scheelhaase in this case, why not ride the coattails? It's highly probable he's getting a HC next cycle unless something disastrous happens. Why forgo something you already know for something you don't?Yeah I think the takeaway from there is , if Monken spring boarded to a HC gig here, imagine what a hot shot kid getting Lamar over the hump can get. Going back to Scheelhaase, why let a "lesser" guy like Doyle run that baby and take all the credit, when there isn't really any more credit to take baby sitting for Mcvay/Stafford.
15 minutes awaywhat time is the press conference? TIA
I know this has been the take here but it hasn’t panned out that way.
That was my thought too. Mostly it has been strange circumstances that have led to missing out. Like all these OCs getting fired or hired away on the same teams where there is a younger up and comer. Maybe that’s actually not strange circumstance but it is unfortunate.Who have we missed out on who’s actually available I.e. changing teams or free agent that’s gone somewhere else
Only guy I can think of is Mike McDaniel but he also signed before minter was hired too
sorry, totally misread it. He's just coming in for an interview.Omg
Wait where do you see that??
You can’t do this to us!sorry, totally misread it. He's just coming in for an interview.
yeah, I know. I'm off to the Pit......You can’t do this to us!
Which part of my statement made you think I said Monken didn't have success with Lamar?Monken was very successful with Lamar. This year was a down year due to his injuries and offensive line. Are you really saying Monken wasn't successful with Lamar.
But Monken didn't get Lamar "over the hump". Monken got a HC gig because he's had numerous quality offensive outputs with numerous NFL teams.Yeah I think the takeaway from there is , if Monken spring boarded to a HC gig here, imagine what a hot shot kid getting Lamar over the hump can get. Going back to Scheelhaase, why let a "lesser" guy like Doyle run that baby and take all the credit, when there isn't really any more credit to take baby sitting for Mcvay/Stafford.
I'm not sure credit matters in these cases. Teams are always going to be looking at the guys under a McVay or a Shanahan. If you're Scheelhaase in this case, why not ride the coattails? It's highly probably he's getting a HC next cycle unless something disastrous happens. Why forgo something you already know for something you don't?
But Monken didn't get Lamar "over the hump". Monken got a HC gig because he's had numerous quality offensive outputs with numerous NFL teams.
And because pretty much nobody with any long term aspirations as a HC wants the Browns job.
Greg Roman isn't a HC. He was the OC when Lamar won an MVP and got the #1 seed with the league's best offense too.
If an OC comes here and the Ravens have a top offense with the #1 seed, and they don't win the playoffs, what will they have achieved that they didn't achieve with other OCs?
That assumes all teams are looking for play callers though, which if this year is any indication, is not always the case. A bunch of guys hired this year that can do that, but that's not the only reason they were hired.I digress, slightly but I do. Kubiak and Minter were up for the top jobs, Mike LeFleur is up for Arizona. Yes of course they will get A HC job just sitting on the conveyor belt, but if they want pick of the litter you gotta take some risks as a 1st time head coach and not play calling/full empowerment over your side can be a detriment to that.
Roman is Roman and was never head coach material and this is a team game. It wasn't just Lamar's fault we weren't in the Super Bowl. If you are going to blame it on Lamar that we didn't get to the Super Bowl, well that is your opinion. He as MVP one season and arguably should have been MVP in two of those seasons.But Monken didn't get Lamar "over the hump". Monken got a HC gig because he's had numerous quality offensive outputs with numerous NFL teams.
And because pretty much nobody with any long term aspirations as a HC wants the Browns job.
Greg Roman isn't a HC. He was the OC when Lamar won an MVP and got the #1 seed with the league's best offense too.
If an OC comes here and the Ravens have a top offense with the #1 seed, and they don't win the playoffs, what will they have achieved that they didn't achieve with other OCs?