Feels like a case of reading the box score and not watching Jaguars games, which I can hardly blame a Ravens fan for (not watching games), bit Ravens fans should be aware of how deceptive box score scouting is.
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Tank
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After watching the Vorhees interview from a few weeks ago you could tell he was hyped, extremely well prepared and all about business. I believe he's going to be a special one for us for a long time.
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The biggest indictment of him as a QB comes from watching the games (with the amount I gamble I better be watching the games). Yes the turnovers in the statline are very very bad (think he has the most of any player over the past 3 years without any of the TDs Josh Allen has to compensate), but watching the games there is nothing he does that a dozen other guys cannot do as well without the turnovers to go with. Basically if not for his draft stock and hype nobody would consider him anything more than a league average starter, based purely on how he has played.
There are knocks on all of the top 10 QBs, who are not Mahomes, but for all of them they have at least played for a full season at a top 10 level and you can point to that full season of work and go "yep this is the level of play that if we can recreate we can make/win a Super Bowl with".
He is only 23-24 and going into his 4th year! In two years jags probably wont be able afford him. If this was his 5th yr going into his 6th, id be a little worried about the deal buts he only going into his 4th. Shit baker got 3yr 100 million surely a younger and more talented qb is worth 150m more than that
I used to hate herbert like his first few yrs because i felt like i was the only one that use to watch his games and see him throw ints every 2nd half to give away games for my money lol.. this must be how you feel about lawerence.. lawerence does fuck up but i can see him getting a little better like how herbert did this past season
Dom McRaven
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I'm curious when they will change their logo to the Ravens but in yellow.
I've been wondering the same and have called them Ravens west to a friend of mine who lives in San Diego.
he's not going to find it in Miami
I actually think it's turned into the opposite.
I know a lot of people were very fatigued with the talk of Lawrence being the next great thing coming into the NFL (he was considered THE guy since high school, so there was several years of build up going on here) and I think people are VERY quick to root against Lawrence because they're so eager to be right that he shouldn't have been the "next Luck" type prospect.
I'm probably biased as a Clemson fan, but watching Lawrence, he's just a really solid quarterback who has had to shoulder a much larger amount of the responsibility to be the savior for a franchise that's generally pretty damn poor (obviously, seeing as most first overall picks don't go to amazing situations.) Like I said, he played amazing the second half of 2022 and had a great start to 2023 before the injuries to himself and Kirk caught up.
If he and the team can stay healthy (I don't know how big of an ask this is), I think he could definitely have a year where he'll make the Pro Bowl, at least, and be in conversations as a top starter in at least the AFC.