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Dom McRaven said:
Good point. At least Zeitler hasn't shown any signs of slowing down so far. Would a two-year deal work for him? Yanda was 35 or 36 when he retired.
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To be clear, I have no problems keeping Zeitler. Think he's the type that'll continue to play at a high level even at an older age. Just part of the decision making process in that if you keep Zeitler, you're likely looking at trying to fill both G positions in relatively short order. If you keep Powers, you hope his progression is real and that he can occupy one of those spots for the next 4 years and you only have to fill 1 G spot.
 
Simba said:
Zeitler and Powers is an interesting decision because of the long-term considerations. Zeitler is probably the better player, but will be 33 at the start of next season. Powers is the lesser of the 2 players (which isn't meant as a slight) but has really improved and has youth on his side.
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i dont think age really comes into it unless you think powers is a long-term guy

because zeitler would be going into the last year of his 1 year deal and idk that powers is getting a big long-term extension if we retain him... maybe im misreading that
 
Dom McRaven said:
I was never on board with us getting rid of Zeitler. He has consistently been one of the bright spots on offense. I'd rather let go of Powers if I HAD to.
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Keep KZ, let powers walk, draft a guard early. Don’t draft a swing, don’t draft an unathletic OT and spend 3 years converting them, just get a goddamn guard minimum. Emil ekiyor jr and Andrew vorhees are day 2 plug and play guards.

Fuck the entire idea of finally getting an OL built and then disbanding them after 10 weeks of Lamar playing behind them with no WRs or RBs
 
rossihunter2 said:
i dont think age really comes into it unless you think powers is a long-term guy

because zeitler would be going into the last year of his 1 year deal and idk that powers is getting a big long-term extension if we retain him... maybe im misreading that
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For me the Powers question is the real one here. At this point, I'd be surprised if he isn't one of the top dogs on the FA market. Again, not necessarily meant to be a slight at him, but the big names are all signing extensions, so a team in need might be willing to pony up. Now, I don't think the Ravens will be that team, but I guess if they believe he is potentially a 3-4 year solution, then maybe.

Would also say it very much depends on who is at the helm of the offense as well. If it's Roman still (please no), he makes a lot of sense. If it's not him, then maybe his pulling ability isn't as valued. Would still think the pass protection is but then it becomes the value vs. play conversation.

All of that to say... it's a maybe for me. Think he'll have a decently robust market but also don't think we're going to get into that war unless we want to try to sign him before he even makes it to FA, which would require at least a market value deal which isn't cheap.
 
rossihunter2 said:
i dont think age really comes into it unless you think powers is a long-term guy

because zeitler would be going into the last year of his 1 year deal and idk that powers is getting a big long-term extension if we retain him... maybe im misreading that
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if we keep Zeitler it would have to be an extension to lower his cap hit. I think Powers could get a 3 year deal in the 6m range.
 
Sounds like this is probably to get Anthony Brown on the 53, who is officially out of elevations



Also makes me curious about Ar'Darius Washington who exhausted his elevations and was not added to the 53 by the deadline a couple of weeks back. Sounds like he might not be able to play for us the rest of the season now but the rules aren't exactly clear.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Keep KZ, let powers walk, draft a guard early. Don’t draft a swing, don’t draft an unathletic OT and spend 3 years converting them, just get a goddamn guard minimum. Emil ekiyor jr and Andrew vorhees are day 2 plug and play guards.

Fuck the entire idea of finally getting an OL built and then disbanding them after 10 weeks of Lamar playing behind them with no WRs or RBs
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So I don't hate the strategy, BUT...
Where are these draft picks coming from? Remember, no 2nd rounder. Unless we're like trading out of the first round entirely to get more picks (which is possible), we've got two picks before end of day 2.
WR is obviously massively high on the list, and I think most people are in on the idea of Peters not returning, which means Corner is now on that list. If that's the case, and there's no trade for more picks, either WR, CB or Guard isn't happening until round 4 at the earliest. I'm personally fine with a 4th or 5th rounder at interior Oline, but I've be super skittish to see us wait until day 3 for a WR or CB.

I don't know what Powers price tag will be. If its like $6-7M a year, I'm extending him and keeping Zeitler for another year or two. Probably give Zeitler a 1-2 year extension and he'll go on the Campbell track, which is year-to-year until he retires basically.

If anything, I'd consider cutting Moses to keep Powers perhaps. I already have two players on the roster who should be able to play RT reasonably well (Mekari and Faalele). I don't seemingly have anybody on the roster who can play Guard.

All of this is also in the context of assuming there's no extension for Lamar. If Lamar gets extended, opens up everything. Can re-sign whoever, can look to FA for upgrades, etc.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
So I don't hate the strategy, BUT...
Where are these draft picks coming from? Remember, no 2nd rounder. Unless we're like trading out of the first round entirely to get more picks (which is possible), we've got two picks before end of day 2.
WR is obviously massively high on the list, and I think most people are in on the idea of Peters not returning, which means Corner is now on that list. If that's the case, and there's no trade for more picks, either WR, CB or Guard isn't happening until round 4 at the earliest. I'm personally fine with a 4th or 5th rounder at interior Oline, but I've be super skittish to see us wait until day 3 for a WR or CB.

I don't know what Powers price tag will be. If its like $6-7M a year, I'm extending him and keeping Zeitler for another year or two. Probably give Zeitler a 1-2 year extension and he'll go on the Campbell track, which is year-to-year until he retires basically.

If anything, I'd consider cutting Moses to keep Powers perhaps. I already have two players on the roster who should be able to play RT reasonably well (Mekari and Faalele). I don't seemingly have anybody on the roster who can play Guard.

All of this is also in the context of assuming there's no extension for Lamar. If Lamar gets extended, opens up everything. Can re-sign whoever, can look to FA for upgrades, etc.
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Moses is definitely the guy I’d prefer to let go, he just hasn’t brought enough value, dare I say he’s been the worst OL we’ve had out there this season
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Moses is definitely the guy I’d prefer to let go, he just hasn’t brought enough value, dare I say he’s been the worst OL we’ve had out there this season
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he has been, but he's also an excellent puller and definitely adds value that way. That being said, I'd also prefer to keep Zeitler and Powers and let Moses walk. That being said, I think our OL coach could teach a turtle out to pull.
 
Simba said:
Sounds like this is probably to get Anthony Brown on the 53, who is officially out of elevations



Also makes me curious about Ar'Darius Washington who exhausted his elevations and was not added to the 53 by the deadline a couple of weeks back. Sounds like he might not be able to play for us the rest of the season now but the rules aren't exactly clear.
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surely he would be if he's added to the 53?
 
Simba said:
Sounds like this is probably to get Anthony Brown on the 53, who is officially out of elevations



Also makes me curious about Ar'Darius Washington who exhausted his elevations and was not added to the 53 by the deadline a couple of weeks back. Sounds like he might not be able to play for us the rest of the season now but the rules aren't exactly clear.
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OBJ on a 2-year deal.





Source: truzz me bro
 
rossihunter2 said:
surely he would be if he's added to the 53?
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Sounds like you have to be added to the 53 by the Tuesday following your last call up, but not 100% about that. Maybe he was exposed to waivers? I don't know, but apparently that's a stipulation and we didn't meet that, so...
 
Simba said:
Sounds like you have to be added to the 53 by the Tuesday following your last call up, but not 100% about that. Maybe he was exposed to waivers? I don't know, but apparently that's a stipulation and we didn't meet that, so...
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what an odd stipulation if that's the case
 
Simba said:
Found this. Hoping Jeff is mistaken but I've seen some other references to the Tuesday deadline as well. Can't find anything concrete in the rules that were made public though.

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how odd - had never even heard of that
bizarre that you can therefore have a player on your PS who you're no longer allowed to elevate onto the roster - not sure why the NFLPA would ever agree to that or why anyone would ever put that in place...
 
rossihunter2 said:
how odd - had never even heard of that
bizarre that you can therefore have a player on your PS who you're no longer allowed to elevate onto the roster - not sure why the NFLPA would ever agree to that or why anyone would ever put that in place...
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And it sounds like this whole conversation was moot lol

Jeff's mentions saying that he misinterpreted and that players can be added to the 53 at any time after their elevations are used. Sounds like he had a mixup with how the Ravens had been operating by waiving players Monday/Tuesday in hopes that they'd clear and rejoin the PS for the week of practice. In his defense, a fair assumption based on the fact that we typically make moves as last minute as possible.
 
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