WR/RB Thread

[Edgar]

No one can run behind this line as currently constituted.
Wait for cuts.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

It's not a second round pick. It's a Ravens second round pick which, recently, equals nothing at all.

Although, I was actually joking. His salary is quite high so a fifth or sixth is as high as we should go.

You suggested trade a second round pick, and then say it's not a second round pick. I get what you're saying it's just stupid.

You NEVER let past mistakes dictate your draft. It's like when people said we should never draft a Florida db because Elam was a bust, or Ozzie shouldn't draft first round WRs because Clayton and Taylor. That's not how it works.

We've also gotten Torrey, KO, Jernigan, and most recently bowser who's arrow is pointing way up. A ravens second round pick isn't totally futile, we've just had bad luck recently.

And regardless, the second round has talent, always, not having a second round pick for whatever reason will make every team kick themselves as they see talented players fall off the board

 

[RavensMania]

It's not a second round pick. It's a Ravens second round pick which, recently, equals nothing at all.

Although, I was actually joking. His salary is quite high so a fifth or sixth is as high as we should go.

You suggested trade a second round pick, and then say it's not a second round pick. I get what you're saying it's just stupid.

You NEVER let past mistakes dictate your draft. It's like when people said we should never draft a Florida db because Elam was a bust, or Ozzie shouldn't draft first round WRs because Clayton and Taylor. That's not how it works.

We've also gotten Torrey, KO, Jernigan, and most recently bowser who's arrow is pointing way up. A ravens second round pick isn't totally futile, we've just had bad luck recently.

And regardless, the second round has talent, always, not having a second round pick for whatever reason will make every team kick themselves as they see talented players fall off the board

Besides if you don't want to use 2nd rounders because as you say they are worthless, wouldn't it be just better to trade down and multiply the pick...

Btw, Maxx was a 2nd rounder and he could still end up being who we thought he was. Also still too early to judge Correa, but I would have rather had Cody Whitehair, but that's for another thread

 

[The Greek]

I just saw this article, its the first I heard of it. Has anyone heard anything on this? Thoughts?

https://sportstalk360.com/baltimore-new-orleans-in-trade-talks-for-star/

I just saw this article, its the first I heard of it. Has anyone heard anything on this? Thoughts?

https://sportstalk360.com/baltimore-new-orleans-in-trade-talks-for-star/

6th or 7th rd pick only for him. he would ease some of my concerns about the rb group.

 

[Serrell Tuggs]

You suggested trade a second round pick, and then say it's not a second round pick. I get what you're saying it's just stupid.

Besides if you don't want to use 2nd rounders because as you say they are worthless, wouldn't it be just better to trade down and multiply the pick...

You're both right . I agree that we shouldn't trade a 2nd round pick for Ingram. I was joking about the Ravens bad luck with second round picks, that's all.

That's 2 sarcasm based mix ups for me in one day.

My actual opinion is that Ingram would help the team and I wouldn't mind trading a 5th or 6th for him, as I said.

 

[RavensMania]

View attachment 150

You're both right . I agree that we shouldn't trade a 2nd round pick for Ingram. I was joking about the Ravens bad luck with second round picks, that's all.

That's 2 sarcasm based mix ups for me in one day.

My actual opinion is that Ingram would help the team and I wouldn't mind trading a 5th or 6th for him, as I said.

Oops.....guess the sarcasm button would work after all.

 

[Jacquouille]

Yeah, a second rounder for Ingram is way too much, just based on his injury history. I believe some good RBs will be cut after preseason, maybe a Jamaal Charles or a Carlos Hyde could be had for cheaper trade value, esp since those teams could use DL help.

 

[RaineV1]

6th or 7th rd pick only fro him. he would ease some of my concerns about the rb group.

Yeah, I'd give a seventh for Ingram. When healthy he's far better than West, in my opinion. But anything higher than a seventh would just be too much for an older RB behind a questionable line.

 

[Sandtown]

Yeah, a second rounder for Ingram is way too much, just based on his injury history. I believe some good RBs will be cut after preseason, maybe a Jamaal Charles or a Carlos Hyde could be had for cheaper trade value, esp since those teams could use DL help.

Jamaal Charles recently was mention by The Broncos head coach to make the 53 man sqaud after his solid preseason preformance . Carlos Hyde, Matt Jones, and Jeremy Langford all are three running backs that could be cut and interest The Ravens.

 

[Serrell Tuggs]

Jamaal Charles recently was mention by The Broncos head coach to make the 53 man sqaud after his solid preseason preformance . Carlos Hyde, Matt Jones, and Jeremy Langford all are three running backs that could be cut and interest The Ravens.

Well Ingram is better than Jones and Langford. If there turns out to be no way we can keep all those great D-linemen and still maintain a balanced roster, it might be worth trading one of them to the Saints for Ingram. (The 49ers have a good D-line themselves which might rule out a Hyde swap.)

 

[Truth]

I wouldn't mind trading for Ingram, though his style and abilities are very much similar to West's. A 2nd rounder would be robbery, however.

 

[Truth]

Yeah, a second rounder for Ingram is way too much, just based on his injury history. I believe some good RBs will be cut after preseason, maybe a Jamaal Charles or a Carlos Hyde could be had for cheaper trade value, esp since those teams could use DL help.

I wouldn't expect for the 49ers to ship Hyde away for a defensive lineman. They've spent a 1st round picks on DTs and a DE in each of the past three drafts, and they still have Aaron Lynch as a bookend.

 

[Oldfaithful]

I wouldn't mind trading for Ingram, though his style and abilities are very much similar to West's. A 2nd rounder would be robbery, however.

I'd even be okay with a mid rounder. But a second? No. He's not good enough to warrant that. That said, he went to Alabama so he's a wildcard with Ozzie....

I'd much rather have our resources dedicated to the line, but wouldn't object to this if the price is reasonable.

 

[Truth]

I'd even be okay with a mid rounder. But a second? No. He's not good enough to warrant that. That said, he went to Alabama so he's a wildcard with Ozzie....

I'd much rather have our resources dedicated to the line, but wouldn't object to this if the price is reasonable.

Agreed wholeheartedly. Mileage, injury history, a contract above a rookie scale. You could find a bonafide long-term starter in the 2nd.

 

[ZonaRaven]

Ingram carries a $5.3M+ cap number and I don't think the Ravens would take that on unless the Saints assumed a large portion of it. No thanks either way.

 

[Jacquouille]

I wouldn't expect for the 49ers to ship Hyde away for a defensive lineman. They've spent a 1st round picks on DTs and a DE in each of the past three drafts, and they still have Aaron Lynch as a bookend.

I know but they're pretty thin otherwise aren't they? Their run defense was terrible so they could look for a Carl Davis to beef up the middle.

 

[Sooky]

I wouldn't expect for the 49ers to ship Hyde away for a defensive lineman. They've spent a 1st round picks on DTs and a DE in each of the past three drafts, and they still have Aaron Lynch as a bookend.

There have been talks of them possibly cutting him. So if I were San Francisco I would trade and get whatever I could out of him instead of cut him even if it was a depth player.

On the flip side if there is a good chance of him being cut there is no reason the Ravens should trade for him unless they do not believe a player they will trade has any chance of making the 53 man roster.

 

[Sandtown]

There have been talks of them possibly cutting him. So if I were San Francisco I would trade and get whatever I could out of him instead of cut him even if it was a depth player.

On the flip side if there is a good chance of him being cut there is no reason the Ravens should trade for him unless they do not believe a player they will trade has any chance of making the 53 man roster.

I think since Hyde is still on his rookie deal he would have to go through the wavier process first. I think the wavier systems works out in the order of The NFL Draft like it is in the first round .So let's say The 49ers decide to cut Carlos Hyde but The Jets are interested in him which would be realistic since Matt Forte isn't getting any younger. The Jets would have the right to claim Hyde before The Ravens because they originally picked before The Ravens in The NFL Draft. So if The Ravens had any form of interest in Carlos Hyde it would be risky for them allow him to go to the wavier process but Hyde hasn't really been the most healthiest player either so I'm not entirely sure it would be in The Ravens best interest to invest in another injury prone player.

 

[Sooky]

I think since Hyde is still on his rookie deal he would have to go through the wavier process first. I think the wavier systems works out in the order of The NFL Draft like it is in the first round .So let's say The 49ers decide to cut Carlos Hyde but The Jets are interested in him which would be realistic since Matt Forte isn't getting any younger. The Jets would have the right to claim Hyde before The Ravens because they originally picked before The Ravens in The NFL Draft. So if The Ravens had any form of interest in Carlos Hyde it would be risky for them allow him to go to the wavier process but Hyde hasn't really been the most healthiest player either so I'm not entirely sure it would be in The Ravens best interest to invest in another injury prone player.

Alright that would make sense then thank you for your clarification Sandtown

 

[RavensMania]

I think since Hyde is still on his rookie deal he would have to go through the wavier process first. I think the wavier systems works out in the order of The NFL Draft like it is in the first round .So let's say The 49ers decide to cut Carlos Hyde but The Jets are interested in him which would be realistic since Matt Forte isn't getting any younger. The Jets would have the right to claim Hyde before The Ravens because they originally picked before The Ravens in The NFL Draft. So if The Ravens had any form of interest in Carlos Hyde it would be risky for them allow him to go to the wavier process but Hyde hasn't really been the most healthiest player either so I'm not entirely sure it would be in The Ravens best interest to invest in another injury prone player.

About a month ago I thought Hyde would be traded or cut, but I don't think that now.