The Random Thought Thread

[Deebo813]

hate to say it but the #12 football jersey should be retired throughout the whole nfl lol and i agree with bill on the name change of the lambordi trophy. We can say what we want but that dude was something else.. he shouldve been the first hall of fame player to be in the hall of fame while still playing. Brady will likely be the last sports figure to have status like kobe/jordan while still playing, that boogey man/mythical aura type of player

 

[DaCiderEarl]

Reserve 17 for a lazy bum please

 

[Tank]

hate to say it but the #12 football jersey should be retired throughout the whole nfl

Agreed.

 

[29BmoreBird22]

Lamar’s stiff arm fumble play against the bengals and Henry’s 87 yard 1st play TD did not make the NFL’s new top 100 plays of 2024 video. I only saw plays 53 and 52 and that was enough for me to know whenever did it should be fired, a normal draw for 30 yards made the list. The list is largely receiving massive hate

The number one play was an absolute joke.

Yeah, the backward hurdle was a really athletic play, but that was your top play of the year? Seriously?

 

[29BmoreBird22]

Was Brady being favored for being married to Gisselle ever actually a thing people thought was a conspiracy?

Absolutely not. I wouldn't have known who Giselle was without Brady. No one was flocking to watch the NFL because of her relationship with Brady.

Taylor Swift has brought in a VERY large amount of viewers and a large amount of money for just being in a relationship with Kelce. I'm sure people watch Chiefs games simply to see her show up on screen.

They are not comparable at all.

 

[Tank]

LMAO!

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[RavensMania]

Mahomes is pretty bad in the super bowl and this includes wins

5 SB's
7 TDs
7 Int's

Brady
10 SB's
21 TDs
6 Int's

 

[RavensMania]

hate to say it but the #12 football jersey should be retired throughout the whole nfl lol and i agree with bill on the name change of the lambordi trophy. We can say what we want but that dude was something else.. he shouldve been the first hall of fame player to be in the hall of fame while still playing. Brady will likely be the last sports figure to have status like kobe/jordan while still playing, that boogey man/mythical aura type of player

so you are going to retire Stabler's jersey. I could go with that. He was a dude.

 

[RavensMania]

The number one play was an absolute joke.

Yeah, the backward hurdle was a really athletic play, but that was your top play of the year? Seriously?

and it's not like he got much if any additional yards on that play.

 

[rmcjacket23]

Mahomes is pretty bad in the super bowl and this includes wins

5 SB's
7 TDs
7 Int's

Brady
10 SB's
21 TDs
6 Int's

I get people doing this "thing", and I understand why, but I'm never going to be the guy criticizing a QB's performance when he's played in 5 SBs. Looking pedestrian in multiple SBs is exponentially better than looking great every year and never making one.

When your legit only comparison is to Tom Brady in terms of NFL success, you've already "won", regardless of what happens next.

 

[OURavensFan]

The number one play was an absolute joke.

Yeah, the backward hurdle was a really athletic play, but that was your top play of the year? Seriously?

What was their number one play? I don’t want to give it another view. Was it the stupid Josh Allen receiving TD?

Edit - sry only read your headline… yea how impressive is that really considering that girl in the Nike commercial did the same thing

 

[OURavensFan]

I get people doing this "thing", and I understand why, but I'm never going to be the guy criticizing a QB's performance when he's played in 5 SBs. Looking pedestrian in multiple SBs is exponentially better than looking great every year and never making one.

When your legit only comparison is to Tom Brady in terms of NFL success, you've already "won", regardless of what happens next.

It’s funny tho because Mahomes and Hurts had bad turnovers in playoff games they’ve won but some people are absolutely killing Lamar for the INT he threw against the Bills as if all other QBs are always turnover free. It’s a team game, and our team always comes up short

 

[RavensMania]

I get people doing this "thing", and I understand why, but I'm never going to be the guy criticizing a QB's performance when he's played in 5 SBs. Looking pedestrian in multiple SBs is exponentially better than looking great every year and never making one.

When your legit only comparison is to Tom Brady in terms of NFL success, you've already "won", regardless of what happens next.

I understand that and the only comparison is Brady and many people in the media are trying to make him the GOAT. At least that has cooled off with the destruction in SB 59. So if you are saying that I can only compare to Brady, then my post was a success. That is exactly what I was trying to do.

 

[rmcjacket23]

It’s funny tho because Mahomes and Hurts had bad turnovers in playoff games they’ve won but some people are absolutely killing Lamar for the INT he threw against the Bills as if all other QBs are always turnover free. It’s a team game, and our team always comes up short

Well yeah, because Hurts and Mahomes have a shit load more playoff success than Lamar. People with more success have earned the right to be praised more, and criticized less, for their failures.

 

[All_black_everything]

 

[redrum52]

Eagles are doing with the cap what Rams did with draft picks. Take a look at that teams contracts when you get a chance.

And no we shouldn't go after TYSHUN Samuel.

 

[rmcjacket23]

Eagles are doing with the cap what Rams did with draft picks. Take a look at that teams contracts when you get a chance.

And no we shouldn't go after TYSHUN Samuel.

Pretty smart move if your owner is willing to lay out the cash up front like they do. Defer cap as long as possible, wait for your franchise QB to fall off a cliff or retire, take the hit in two years, and start over.
As long as you have the QB, you'll be relevant for a decade doing that.

 

[rmcjacket23]

Thank god it has until some dipshit like Nick Wright starts it up again. I think he was brutalized after the game. As a fan that waited 50 years to even watch a Chiefs SB appearance, I was grateful when we won one. I am glad it took a setback, I don’t think I could take another year of “ four peat”.

It is unfortunate that so much of the success/ failure falls on the Quarterback. Most of Mahomes success came from walking into a perfect situation. Veteran quarterback that had been a winner to teach him. A coach that was ready to win after getting close. And a couple really great weapons in Kelce and hill. He gained that early confidence and turned it into swagger. This allowed him to pull the last three teams to the superbowl with pretty pedestrian weapons. Lamar and Allen were just raw talent that didn’t have as much of a leg up and weren’t helped at times by their coach. It’s just luck of the draw I guess as they are all good in their own ways.

While I agree I think the pendulum has swung way too far on the whole "wins are a QB stat" concept, but I will say that a lot of that is born out of the notion that a) they're paid gigantically more than everybody else and b) QB statistics are kind of just "yeah whatever" these days. 5,000 passing yards is barely even impressive, you basically can't touch the QB in any fashion, and all of the rules are setup for QBs and receivers to do basically anything they want out there. Which means at some point, you see the same gaudy performances and you're like "yeah OK, cool. Been there, seen that".
I think assessing QBs off statistical output is becoming just as a ludicrous as assessing them based on W/L record.

I'm the outlier in these thoughts, but I think there's a LOT more QBs in this league that are capable of winning a SB than most people think. Most people think there's like 5-6 in any given year. I think there's a shit load more. And I think the difference between the have's, the wills, and the wont's has a lot less to do with the performance of the QB and a lot more to do with the performance of the team, the coaches, and the leadership in the Org.

 

[redrum52]

Pretty smart move if your owner is willing to lay out the cash up front like they do. Defer cap as long as possible, wait for your franchise QB to fall off a cliff or retire, take the hit in two years, and start over.
As long as you have the QB, you'll be relevant for a decade doing that.

I agree. Recognize your window and take advantage. Will be a rough couple of years after but no one will care if you handle business. Also, since they aren't sending off picks you can skip the lull if you have draft foresight.

 

[redrum52]

While I agree I think the pendulum has swung way too far on the whole "wins are a QB stat" concept, but I will say that a lot of that is born out of the notion that a) they're paid gigantically more than everybody else and b) QB statistics are kind of just "yeah whatever" these days. 5,000 passing yards is barely even impressive, you basically can't touch the QB in any fashion, and all of the rules are setup for QBs and receivers to do basically anything they want out there. Which means at some point, you see the same gaudy performances and you're like "yeah OK, cool. Been there, seen that".
I think assessing QBs off statistical output is becoming just as a ludicrous as assessing them based on W/L record.

I'm the outlier in these thoughts, but I think there's a LOT more QBs in this league that are capable of winning a SB than most people think. Most people think there's like 5-6 in any given year. I think there's a shit load more. And I think the difference between the have's, the wills, and the wont's has a lot less to do with the performance of the QB and a lot more to do with the performance of the team, the coaches, and the leadership in the Org.

Exactly. Harbaugh sucks. Glad you see it too