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The Random Thought Thread

DeVito52 said:
I’ve never understood the hate for drafting lots of Alabama players. How am I gonna get upset that we take a lot of players from the best college football team in the country?
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Especially when your team has a lot of ties to the college to know who is the best players coming out of the best college... Just think I know a lot of people like me wanted Reubon Foster, Johnathan Allen, or even OJ Howard last year and people were FURIOUS about Humphrey who I actually liked. Reubon Foster is having his issues, Allen with his health, and Howard has been hurt and inconsistent, Humphrey I think so far has exceeded those guys and he is honestly one of the best young corners in the league, who unfortunately for him plays behind two really good corners.
 
Ozzie has Bama bias but he's actually drafted quality players from Bama the past couple of years. Unlike in years previous where you take a guy who's college tape was clearly abysmal such as Courtney Upshaw over an Alshon Jeffery. Or a Terrance Cody over.... Well literally anyone else would've been better.
My main problem with it is that he seems to settle for Bama players at times when other, better players on the board are available, even on the ones he hits. You mean to tell me Brandin Cooks wouldn't have been an ideal pick over CJ Mosley, who I like. OJ Howard, fellow Bama product, is looking like he's a step away from becoming a perrenial all pro as a TE. Tell me that's not a good piece to have for Lamar Jackson. You do get times where you get a Tim Williams or an Anthony Averett and you just can't say no, but there is clearly a bias here. Hell, we had Cam Robinson high on our board apperantly, and if we had drafted him it would've been a hilarious display of hypocrisy from our FO. You mean to tell me that we wouldn't draft Laremy Tunsil(yes Stanley is better, but Tunsil was widely considered to be the superior prospect. Hell, Stanley isn't even that much better than Tunsil at this point) because of drug related issues with our first round pick, but we were considering it with Cam Robinson? Why... *Bama*.

It's overblown, and I am guilty of it as well, and it's worked out better, but saying there is no Bama bias from the team is just wrong. Sorry guys.
 
Lost_In_Translation said:
OJ Howard, fellow Bama product, is looking like he's a step away from becoming a perrenial all pro as a TE.
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OJ Howard has been good at times but he's not been as consistently good or available as marlon
it's also a moot point because literally every player we could have taken value wise on nearly every board (including mine) was that a bama player was the only option at 16

i mean hell i had cam robinson as a value pick there, i also had tim williams as a value pick there too lol
but jonathan allen, reuben foster, marlon humphrey, oj howard, cam robinson and he picked probably the best player in that spot - despite all the options being bama players

also cam robinson has been pretty great in the league at LT (which surprised me coz i thought he'd be a guard)

cant make an argument about upshaw or cody or whatever but i will say that CJ was a much better prospect than brandin cooks in that 2014 class

and tunsil was wrongly widely considered the best prospect - i think there were a large number of people on this board who thought stanley was the better prospect and that's borne out

it's also not a similar situation with tunsil and robinson - robinson's arrest was something that happened well in advance of the draft and could be researched and answered etc... tunsil's situation happened literally minutes before the draft started... and the bama connection is absolutely a help because it tells us that robinson's (and the same for timmy williams's) situations were not going to be recurring problems in the leagues

the other thing here is that no one is saying there is no bama bias - the argument is that the bama bias really isnt necessarily a negative thing on its own
 
Edgar said:
Cerratto and his co host seemed absolutely convinced The Ravens will WIN the division, as if it were a foregone conclusion.
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I think we will win it as well. I haven’t heard him or what he said but I’ve been saying this that there’s a very good chance. I feel it’s better than 50% but we have to do our part.

Lost_In_Translation said:
This is where I have to question how much influence does Harbaugh have in the draft room. We continually have taken these high character stories since he's fucking gotten here. Sure, CJ Mosley, Ronnie Stanley, and Humphrey are good players and have been a trend away, but still. We go from drafting bonafide studs like Ngata, who was a risky proposition, to guys with high character over everything else.

Ozzie may have final say, but Harbaugh is in the war room too and our strategy noticeably changed when we got here. Even with Alabama goggles on, I don't see any possible universe where Ozzie goes Courtney Upshaw over Alshon Jeffery. Even he would take a chance there. But "high character guy". especially since Ozzie has been successful when drafting and acquiring edge rushers. Kruger turned out good, McPhee was good. Tim Williams when healthy looks good, Judon is a starter as a fifth rounder. Obviously there's Suggs and Boulware as well. Notice how we covet these limited pass rushers because of high character, "relentless motor". Makes me wonder, because Ozzie in the past DID NOT CARE. "But Dan Cody", even the best miss.

Can't wait to get rid of Harbaugh, I really think he's messed up the team more than most realized. Ozzie has done a lot of shitty things since 2012, but Ozzie has done his job the past three seasons in acquiring talent. Has he been perfect? No, of course not, but this team is on the brink of a possible playoff birth for the third year in a row. The talent has been acquired. We could ALWAYS do better with the benefit of hindsight, this is true of every GM in the league.

I personally think Hayden is going to be fine. I would've much rather have had Hernandez but whatever. No use in bitching about it now, nothing we can do.
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Let’s talk Harbaugh and character guys because this comes up a lot. When did the whole character thing start anyway? 2009 Michael Oher? Maybe you could say that, but I think it really started in 2014 when we had the Rice debacle. No we didn’t take Burfict but he was a hard draft anyway and nobody drafted him. We really haven’t avoided guys until Rice and I think that’s a Bisciotti or a common sense decision. Who wants to draft a guy who will get suspended and/or make the team look bad? I’m sure Harbaugh has input and I’m sure the coordinators also have input so I don’t think Harbaugh is avoiding certain guys but he does clearly not like idiots but then again Judon still gets playing time so go figure.

Deebo813 said:
I doubt harbaugh has a voice in draft room.. im sure its ozzie and decosta. I know you want harbaugh fired but dam
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That’s how I feel as well.

Lost_In_Translation said:
Dude, he's a HC and he's in the war room. I know I'm complaining about him having TOO big a voice, but if he didn't have a voice at all that'd be a bigger problem.
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I’m sure he has a voice and I’m sure the coordinators do; however, while our owner isn’t Snyder I doubt he wants us to draft these guys with major concerns who could make his BRAND look bad. Is that Steve or John or Ozzie? I don’t know but I think it’s probably much more complex than we realize and I don’t think this can be blanketed in the way we cast blame here.
 
Lost_In_Translation said:
Ozzie has Bama bias but he's actually drafted quality players from Bama the past couple of years. Unlike in years previous where you take a guy who's college tape was clearly abysmal such as Courtney Upshaw over an Alshon Jeffery. Or a Terrance Cody over.... Well literally anyone else would've been better.
My main problem with it is that he seems to settle for Bama players at times when other, better players on the board are available, even on the ones he hits. You mean to tell me Brandin Cooks wouldn't have been an ideal pick over CJ Mosley, who I like. OJ Howard, fellow Bama product, is looking like he's a step away from becoming a perrenial all pro as a TE. Tell me that's not a good piece to have for Lamar Jackson. You do get times where you get a Tim Williams or an Anthony Averett and you just can't say no, but there is clearly a bias here. Hell, we had Cam Robinson high on our board apperantly, and if we had drafted him it would've been a hilarious display of hypocrisy from our FO. You mean to tell me that we wouldn't draft Laremy Tunsil(yes Stanley is better, but Tunsil was widely considered to be the superior prospect. Hell, Stanley isn't even that much better than Tunsil at this point) because of drug related issues with our first round pick, but we were considering it with Cam Robinson? Why... *Bama*.

It's overblown, and I am guilty of it as well, and it's worked out better, but saying there is no Bama bias from the team is just wrong. Sorry guys.
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Excellent post brother. You wrote my exact thoughts without me having to put in the work. Thanks!
 
Grim said:
I’m sure he has a voice and I’m sure the coordinators do; however, while our owner isn’t Snyder I doubt he wants us to draft these guys with major concerns who could make his BRAND look bad. Is that Steve or John or Ozzie? I don’t know but I think it’s probably much more complex than we realize and I don’t think this can be blanketed in the way we cast blame here.
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I think SB and Harbaugh are on the same page there - once SB realised it, he gave Harbs more say on the matter.
 
Lost_In_Translation said:
Ozzie has Bama bias but he's actually drafted quality players from Bama the past couple of years. Unlike in years previous where you take a guy who's college tape was clearly abysmal such as Courtney Upshaw over an Alshon Jeffery. Or a Terrance Cody over.... Well literally anyone else would've been better.
My main problem with it is that he seems to settle for Bama players at times when other, better players on the board are available, even on the ones he hits. You mean to tell me Brandin Cooks wouldn't have been an ideal pick over CJ Mosley, who I like. OJ Howard, fellow Bama product, is looking like he's a step away from becoming a perrenial all pro as a TE. Tell me that's not a good piece to have for Lamar Jackson. You do get times where you get a Tim Williams or an Anthony Averett and you just can't say no, but there is clearly a bias here. Hell, we had Cam Robinson high on our board apperantly, and if we had drafted him it would've been a hilarious display of hypocrisy from our FO. You mean to tell me that we wouldn't draft Laremy Tunsil(yes Stanley is better, but Tunsil was widely considered to be the superior prospect. Hell, Stanley isn't even that much better than Tunsil at this point) because of drug related issues with our first round pick, but we were considering it with Cam Robinson? Why... *Bama*.

It's overblown, and I am guilty of it as well, and it's worked out better, but saying there is no Bama bias from the team is just wrong. Sorry guys.
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So far I’d take Humphrey over Howard, no question, and I felt FAR from that when we drafted him, I was livid, that opinion on the 2 could change next year though.

I also see a clear bama bias, but not to the detriment of the team, we take good bama players because frankly they all turn into at worst solid pro players. If we took Mack Wilson or Damien Harris over really any prospect I may prefer, I wouldn’t bat an eye, because I know both are quality day one starters with potential to quite literally transform our entire team just by fitting so perfectly. And oddly enough, the guy I want over them?... another bama player, Thompson.

Looking at the first round this year I think we’re taking a bama guy, whether we stick to our spot or trade back, because there are some very good bama players that would fill needs for us that should go in the 20s
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
So far I’d take Humphrey over Howard, no question, and I felt FAR from that when we drafted him, I was livid, that opinion on the 2 could change next year though.

I also see a clear bama bias, but not to the detriment of the team, we take good bama players because frankly they all turn into at worst solid pro players. If we took Mack Wilson or Damien Harris over really any prospect I may prefer, I wouldn’t bat an eye, because I know both are quality day one starters with potential to quite literally transform our entire team just by fitting so perfectly. And oddly enough, the guy I want over them?... another bama player, Thompson.

Looking at the first round this year I think we’re taking a bama guy, whether we stick to our spot or trade back, because there are some very good bama players that would fill needs for us that should go in the 20s
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it just makes a lot of sense - lots of highly-rated recruits who play in high-stakes matches every year with good coaching and not in a completely watered down scheme - naturally that would yield lots of good players

especially with the recent recruiting classes that saban has got - every year the last 2-3 years has had at least 4-5 high quality bama players available in round 1 or early day 2
 
rossihunter2 said:
it just makes a lot of sense - lots of highly-rated recruits who play in high-stakes matches every year with good coaching and not in a completely watered down scheme - naturally that would yield lots of good players

especially with the recent recruiting classes that saban has got - every year the last 2-3 years has had at least 4-5 high quality bama players available in round 1 or early day 2
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That's the only logical outcome of consistently recruiting the best players in the country, then coaching them up.
 
So the NFL released it's official projections of the 2019 salary cap - between 187m and 191.1

that means the Ravens as it stands would go into the 2019 offseason with 35.5 and 39.8m cap space...
that's still below the league average lol albeit we have a lot more cap flexibility and probably fewer free agents to retain than others...

still that's loads more cap space than we've probably had before in a long time and that's before we do any cutting/trading
 
rossihunter2 said:
So the NFL released it's official projections of the 2019 salary cap - between 187m and 191.1

that means the Ravens as it stands would go into the 2019 offseason with 35.5 and 39.8m cap space...
that's still below the league average lol albeit we have a lot more cap flexibility and probably fewer free agents to retain than others...

still that's loads more cap space than we've probably had before in a long time and that's before we do any cutting/trading
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So cutting joe gives us what... between 50-55m? Can’t remember his savings but I thought it was around 16m after dead cap.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
So far I’d take Humphrey over Howard, no question, and I felt FAR from that when we drafted him, I was livid, that opinion on the 2 could change next year though.

I also see a clear bama bias, but not to the detriment of the team, we take good bama players because frankly they all turn into at worst solid pro players. If we took Mack Wilson or Damien Harris over really any prospect I may prefer, I wouldn’t bat an eye, because I know both are quality day one starters with potential to quite literally transform our entire team just by fitting so perfectly. And oddly enough, the guy I want over them?... another bama player, Thompson.

Looking at the first round this year I think we’re taking a bama guy, whether we stick to our spot or trade back, because there are some very good bama players that would fill needs for us that should go in the 20s
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We should just change our name to the Baltimore Crimson Tide
 
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