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The Random Thought Thread

Ellicottraven said:
Frankly if we just beat our division opponents we are at 8 wins. Then all we need to do is win a couple more to seal the deal.
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Lamar isn't satisfied with this goddam bare minimum! We honestly have a good shot at the 2 seed if we can stay healthy and tighten up a few things. My advice to you all is just forget about the 1 seed because the Patriots have that secured unless Brady goes down.


3 more division games. Bills and Jets we should take. Rams are very beatable. Patriots, Texans, and Niners are at least at home. 10 wins should win the division. 12 should secure a bye depending on what happens in that Texans game.
 
Ellicottraven said:
Frankly if we just beat our division opponents we are at 8 wins. Then all we need to do is win a couple more to seal the deal.
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That’s not true. 4 teams are in each division but we only play 6 games because we can’t play ourselves...or do we...
 
Grim said:
That’s not true. 4 teams are in each division but we only play 6 games because we can’t play ourselves...or do we...
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I could be wrong, but I think he's saying if just win our division games going forward, we'll be at 8 wins. Meaning we already have 5 wins, and we have 3 division games left.

One would figure that 10-6 would easily win the AFC North this year, and even 9-7 is realistic, given that the Browns already have 5 losses.

We've got three division games and we still play the Jets, who don't look like a very good team with or without Darnold. I also think Buffalo, while probably still a playoff team, is going to get exposed largely as a "fraud" before the season is over. They're on our schedule in a home game as well.

There's no good reason why this team shouldn't have double digit wins and easily win this division in my eyes.

While more consistency is needed, we should be setting our sites on a potential first round bye. 11 or 12 wins could get that done, because I'm not sure KC is going to finish at that level with Mahomes out.
 
redrum52 said:
Lamar isn't satisfied with this goddam bare minimum! We honestly have a good shot at the 2 seed if we can stay healthy and tighten up a few things. My advice to you all is just forget about the 1 seed because the Patriots have that secured unless Brady goes down.


3 more division games. Bills and Jets we should take. Rams are very beatable. Patriots, Texans, and Niners are at least at home. 10 wins should win the division. 12 should secure a bye depending on what happens in that Texans game.
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I could very easily see KC hitting 12 wins and they hold the tiebreaker (and probably the three-way tiebreaker). Also, I am not so confident that the Ravens win all three remaining division games considering how the last game against the Browns went and that one was at home.

Before even thinking about a bye wee, the Ravens have to deal with matchups against the other 2 top AFC seeds, and the number 1 seed in the NFC, plus a game against the Rams that could prove difficult, and while I do not think much of the Bills they technically also have the same record as the top AFC seeds so basically 5 very losable games coming up and that is before the Browns. I do not think it goes worst case, but getting to 10 wins is much harder then it sounds.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
I could be wrong, but I think he's saying if just win our division games going forward, we'll be at 8 wins. Meaning we already have 5 wins, and we have 3 division games left.

One would figure that 10-6 would easily win the AFC North this year, and even 9-7 is realistic, given that the Browns already have 5 losses.

We've got three division games and we still play the Jets, who don't look like a very good team with or without Darnold. I also think Buffalo, while probably still a playoff team, is going to get exposed largely as a "fraud" before the season is over. They're on our schedule in a home game as well.

There's no good reason why this team shouldn't have double digit wins and easily win this division in my eyes.

While more consistency is needed, we should be setting our sites on a potential first round bye. 11 or 12 wins could get that done, because I'm not sure KC is going to finish at that level with Mahomes out.
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Man, talk about being all about the business. I thought the “..or do we...” would be a clear cut sign I was joking lol. Lighten up a little man. I guess it’s too early in the am for both of us though.
 
Adreme said:
I could very easily see KC hitting 12 wins and they hold the tiebreaker (and probably the three-way tiebreaker). Also, I am not so confident that the Ravens win all three remaining division games considering how the last game against the Browns went and that one was at home.

Before even thinking about a bye wee, the Ravens have to deal with matchups against the other 2 top AFC seeds, and the number 1 seed in the NFC, plus a game against the Rams that could prove difficult, and while I do not think much of the Bills they technically also have the same record as the top AFC seeds so basically 5 very losable games coming up and that is before the Browns. I do not think it goes worst case, but getting to 10 wins is much harder then it sounds.
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I agree that it will be more challenging to get to 10 wins than it seems. It just sort of depends on which team shows up.

Like coming into this weekend, I thought the 49ers were vastly overrated. Didn't really have much in terms of quality wins on their resume, and their offense had been pretty putrid the last two weeks. They quickly changed my tune this weekend with a dominant win over what I still think is a pretty good Carolina team.

Then I say to myself OK, if we can beat Seattle in Seattle, why can't we beat the Rams in LA? I don't think they're as good as Seattle, its a much easier environment to play in, they can't run the ball, and defensively, they're very average. I'm definitely not writing that game off as a likely loss at this point.

I still think Buffalo is an 8-9 win team when its all said and done. They, like everyone in the AFC East, have benefited from an extremely favorable schedule this year, and I think they're getting exposed offensively against better teams.

From a standings perspective, yes, there's probably at least multiple losses left on the Ravens resume. But while the games remaining are generally more challenging than it seems, all these teams have pretty significant flaws to me. I think the Pats and 49ers games will be very difficult for us, but I see no reason why like LA or Buffalo or even Cleveland would be considered any more likely to be losses than wins.
 
ravenslord said:
Brady looks beatable to me. The Patriots D is carrying them .
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While I agree with the premise, to be honest, I just don't think we're the team to do it.

Like if I'm Belichick, scheming for this offense really isn't that difficult. Sell out to stop the run. They play a ton of man coverage in the secondary, and they blitz enough.

I think they're looking at the film and saying "we feel confident that our Corners can match up very well with the Ravens receiving core and even TE core in man-to-man situations". And if that holds, its going to be extremely difficult for the Ravens to make big plays or even move the ball that effectively.

The best I think we could hope for is that Belichick decides that he's willing to concede some of the run game, in order to stop the big plays. Getting Hollywood back will help us, and maybe he'll think he needs to keep the Safeties deep.

As far as defending the Pats on defense, they're multiple, which makes it more difficult. I think they'll struggle to move the ball on the perimeter against our secondary, but I could see Edelman eating us up out of the slot also.

I'll say the same thing I've been saying for over a month... if you turn the ball over against NE, you're done. Really doesn't matter what else you do. You start fumbling or if Lamar throws a pick or two, its a wrap. You've gotta win time of possession, you've got to sustain drives, and you have to protect the ball. You'll compete with them if you do.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
I agree that it will be more challenging to get to 10 wins than it seems. It just sort of depends on which team shows up.

Like coming into this weekend, I thought the 49ers were vastly overrated. Didn't really have much in terms of quality wins on their resume, and their offense had been pretty putrid the last two weeks. They quickly changed my tune this weekend with a dominant win over what I still think is a pretty good Carolina team.

Then I say to myself OK, if we can beat Seattle in Seattle, why can't we beat the Rams in LA? I don't think they're as good as Seattle, its a much easier environment to play in, they can't run the ball, and defensively, they're very average. I'm definitely not writing that game off as a likely loss at this point.

I still think Buffalo is an 8-9 win team when its all said and done. They, like everyone in the AFC East, have benefited from an extremely favorable schedule this year, and I think they're getting exposed offensively against better teams.

From a standings perspective, yes, there's probably at least multiple losses left on the Ravens resume. But while the games remaining are generally more challenging than it seems, all these teams have pretty significant flaws to me. I think the Pats and 49ers games will be very difficult for us, but I see no reason why like LA or Buffalo or even Cleveland would be considered any more likely to be losses than wins.
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I would be more likely to pick Ravens over the Pats then the Ravens over the Rams. The Rams offense is not great but its a big-play offense and I have yet to see enough games to tell me the team has fixed giving up the big play. I am not that sold on the Rams defense but I think Ramsay can take away Brown which leads to probably holding Ravens in the low to mid 20s in terms of points.

Meanwhile i watched the Pats this week and saw tons of vulnerabilities on defense, they are not the legendary unit that the NFL has anointed them to be. I saw they were vulnerable to runs to the outside (pretty good against inside runs) which plays to the Ravens strengths; I saw some vulnerability in covering over the middle which will be good for Andrews/Hurst/Snead and I did not see much from the Pats offense to convince me that they will do anything next week. The only area I have concern as it relates to the Pats is that I do not expect the WRs to do much of anything just because player for player the secondary of the Pats is significantly better then who will be matched up against.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
While I agree with the premise, to be honest, I just don't think we're the team to do it.

Like if I'm Belichick, scheming for this offense really isn't that difficult. Sell out to stop the run. They play a ton of man coverage in the secondary, and they blitz enough.

I think they're looking at the film and saying "we feel confident that our Corners can match up very well with the Ravens receiving core and even TE core in man-to-man situations". And if that holds, its going to be extremely difficult for the Ravens to make big plays or even move the ball that effectively.

The best I think we could hope for is that Belichick decides that he's willing to concede some of the run game, in order to stop the big plays. Getting Hollywood back will help us, and maybe he'll think he needs to keep the Safeties deep.

As far as defending the Pats on defense, they're multiple, which makes it more difficult. I think they'll struggle to move the ball on the perimeter against our secondary, but I could see Edelman eating us up out of the slot also.

I'll say the same thing I've been saying for over a month... if you turn the ball over against NE, you're done. Really doesn't matter what else you do. You start fumbling or if Lamar throws a pick or two, its a wrap. You've gotta win time of possession, you've got to sustain drives, and you have to protect the ball. You'll compete with them if you do.
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I think what could end up being extremely difficult is Edelaman, as you said, and also their inevitable screen passes. One thing I'd watch out for is Sanu or Edelman passing the ball. We have to remember Sanu was a QB in college just like Edelman.
 
At this point in the season road teams have won 60% of the games. Road teams have never won more than 50% in a single season.

Does this count any games won by the Skins, Chargers and Rams, since everyone of those games played at home has more away team representation. Just wondering.
 
RavensMania said:
I think what could end up being extremely difficult is Edelaman, as you said, and also their inevitable screen passes. One thing I'd watch out for is Sanu or Edelman passing the ball. We have to remember Sanu was a QB in college just like Edelman.
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For some reason im not even worried about this game.. i hope our coaches dnt over think this shit. We just need to come out and play our game.. set up a game plan and lets go with it.
 
Adreme said:
I would be more likely to pick Ravens over the Pats then the Ravens over the Rams. The Rams offense is not great but its a big-play offense and I have yet to see enough games to tell me the team has fixed giving up the big play. I am not that sold on the Rams defense but I think Ramsay can take away Brown which leads to probably holding Ravens in the low to mid 20s in terms of points.

Meanwhile i watched the Pats this week and saw tons of vulnerabilities on defense, they are not the legendary unit that the NFL has anointed them to be. I saw they were vulnerable to runs to the outside (pretty good against inside runs) which plays to the Ravens strengths; I saw some vulnerability in covering over the middle which will be good for Andrews/Hurst/Snead and I did not see much from the Pats offense to convince me that they will do anything next week. The only area I have concern as it relates to the Pats is that I do not expect the WRs to do much of anything just because player for player the secondary of the Pats is significantly better then who will be matched up against.
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I agree with the Pats assessment. My problem is mostly that I think NE can score 14-17 points on their own. And that's not much these days, but frankly, it could be enough to beat us. If Belichick coaches up a scheme to take away our ability to run the ball and control the clock, I find it difficult to see how we, as an offense, can score more than like 14 points.

There's paths I see to the Ravens winning this game, but I don't see any that involve us not running the ball effectively, and especially, us turning it over. Some of the turnovers you saw yesterday by the Browns were boneheaded and more of the "they made the mistake" vs forced turnovers, but that's been happening a LOT this year to teams that play them, so it shouldn't just be taken as coincidence.
 
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