I’m hitting the Raider game week one but want to experience a game at the Bank too. My question is hows the city like? Good place for tourists? Or is it rough?
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No fuckin way man. I just watched our AFC championship game vs the Pats highlights. Completely forgot how Pernell Mcphee made that game sealing tip for Ellerbe to snag. Beautiful times man.
JoeyFlex5
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Baltimore? Stay in downtown and don’t stay out too late and you’ll be fine, downtown can turn into fucktown VERY quick if you’re wandering though lol, the difference one block can make in Baltimore is pretty major. Pratt street area is where you wanna be, harborplace, convention center, light street, and like 2-3 blocks north of pratt is generally where the city is fine.
in other words, if you manage to end up in a sketchy situation, you may have went looking for it.
up until 7 years ago Fedex Field held 90k seats until they removed 10k of them in the upper deck endzones.
JoeyFlex5
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And why did they remove them? They couldn’t fill them because the on field product has been horrible for years. Same with the jags, same with the bengals, same with the chargers, shit it’s almost as if fans actually don’t want to watch a dumpster fire of a team get steamrolled every week for a decade straight.
they kept losing season ticket holders through the years for exactly why you said. That being said, the entire stadium was sold out for a long time before that happened. I was one of these season ticket holders until I couldn't take Dan Snyder anymore. The top deck in the end zone became a party deck standing room. Now, when I talk entire stadium being sold out, I'm referring to general admission, not club level, which is the middle deck (yellow) at Fedex Field. Terrible stadium
JoeyFlex5
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Yeah the Skins hadn’t fallen completely into the cellar until around the time the flacco era started, they sunk fast and it seemed like every 2-3 years they had to shut down another section of the stadium. All the arguments with the patriots and their down year being sold out and what not, well that’s fine but you’re talking ONE season after 2 decades of dominance and the greatest dynasty ever built, really poor argument. If the league lost its star players for good and the on field product was terrible league wide for a decade, the league would become a meme. One organization and one down season does not prove or disprove any theories
I wasn't arguing, I was just saying for about 20 years there was a stadium in the NFL that had 90k seats.
rmcjacket23
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OK, so 1 out of 13. LOL.
ndub
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Thank you
rmcjacket23
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True, although the NFL doesn't care tremendously about this, because they know a lot of those fans didn't actually stop watching football, they just stopped paying money to physically show up at the stadium.
If you look at some of the newer stadiums being built, they're certainly not "big" from a capacity standpoint. Both Atlanta and Las Vegas have capacity around 70K, which probably isn't small, but it's also not really that large from a capacity standpoint. Especially when you consider they cost between $1.5-2B to build.
In game attendance isn't even the second biggest revenue model for the NFL, and they know its been declining for many years now.
They'll certainly pay to watch bad NFL football... that's sort of been proven time and time again. They just will pay through TV viewership instead of buying tickets.
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just wanted to make sure you were accurate. lol
rmcjacket23
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LOL, yes but you made my point for me. A league wide, several thousand player, decline in talent is what would bring the league down, and even then, I'm not convinced it would fall nearly as much as people think. I think if they fired every single NFL player, and replaced them purely with College players, and did that for a decade, the NFL would still do multiple Billions in revenue. Not $7-8B or whatever it is they do now, but still do in the Billions. And that's with fans knowing that they're absolutely not getting the best possible players out there.
It requires a heck of a lot more than a couple star individual players retiring or leaving the league. Those guys are recycled pretty easily actually. Peyton Manning retires, Pat Mahomes gets drafted. It's just shuffling deck chairs.
The Patriots in one season was just one example. I could easily go bigger and broader...
How many years have the Browns sucked? In the last decade, which includes a crap ton of losing, they've never averaged less than 63K fans in attendance for home games in any season. If I do the math, they're averaging at least like 90% capacity, for a total crap product on-field, for a decade.
And that's completely discounting TV ratings and revenue, which is the biggest driver for all NFL teams anyway. You'll find similar stats with Jacksonville and others, who is a notoriously "badly supporting" fanbase.
You can put a terrible on-field product by NFL standards out there for a decade and these stadiums will operate at huge capacity % routinely.
rmcjacket23
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Well technically I was talking about currency capacity, so I wasn't wrong.
no you weren't wrong. Im joking and even said they eliminated 8k seats as the current capacity is 82k. That being said, what stadiums do you have.
I have
Michigan
Penn State
Ohio State
Texas A&M
Tennessee
LSU
Texas Longhorns
Alabama
Georgia
FL
and UCLA.
I have 11, what stadium am I missing? Maybe the Cotton Bowl Stadium?
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BloodRaven
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Back again.
Man our oline is fucking trash.
Man our oline is fucking trash.
rmcjacket23
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Would seem to be Cotton Bowl, yes. I pulled off Wikipedia, which probably isn't the best source, but I was too lazy to look for something better. Looks like your list is probably either from same source or identical to mine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_stadiums_by_capacity
I was looking at two different sources. One had OKLA as a 90k capacity, while not including Florida, while the other one was identical to yours. I think the one that listed Okla was incorrect as I believe it only as 88k. The discrepancy was the reason I was asking you, not because I thought you were wrong.
