yeah he looked overmatched which is not what you want to see in a 2nd year 1st round pick at QB - but they also didnt help him a ton
but yeah he did not live up to the draft billing
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yeah he looked overmatched which is not what you want to see in a 2nd year 1st round pick at QB - but they also didnt help him a ton
but yeah he did not live up to the draft billing
BoredMarine13
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It was one game after a drama filled week in Green Bay. Everyone is overreacting. I’m not saying he is going to be a starter one day but it’s to soon to say he just flat out sucks. I thought Love was at best a 4th round talent in 2020. Combine that with being thrown in the world of Aaron Rodgers drama and it’s not exactly conducive to his growth. Regardless nothing is going to change between now and the off-season that makes Love a better option than Rodgers so if I’m GB I’m begging Rodgers to come back and shipping off Love as a sign of respect to the vet
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we've talked about it before with Wink and edge guys
edge guys dont necessarily get much out of wink's defence but we still get pressure at a high rate with our deceptive blitzes etc.
but it does make it somewhat hard as an edge to get consistent pressure or sacks for a few reasons:
1) we do a lot of rotation at OLB so guys play fewer snaps than they do elsewhere - judon's playing 85% of the snaps for the pats or something like that while he only played about 60% here - which gives you fewer opportunities to rush the passer but also doesnt let you necessarily get in rhythm or set up a tackle for moves later down the line
2) the deception is often designed around getting fast pressure and safeties and corners are inherently quicker than EDGE guys so sometimes our edges are creating space within the rushes for clark and elliott to get pressure
3) because it's a pressure based defence the offence gets the ball out faster which doesnt allow pressures and sacks to get home necessarily
the ravens despite lacking a pass rush are top 10 in pressure %, top 10 in Qb hits and top 15 in pressures... we're middle of the pack mostly as a pressure unit but 7th worst in sacks
and i put a lot of that down to scheme - but i dont think it's necessarily inherently bad - i would like to see us run more cover 2 shell type stuff and drop 7 a bit more especially when we face better QBs but im not gonna quibble with the results that wink's had the last 3-4 years - ravens under his tenure are the number 1 scoring defence in the NFL over that time period
I don't ever want to be the rams. Soon enough their way of doing business will falter. They haven't had a 1st round pick since drafting Jared Goff 1st overall in 2016 and won't have one, unless they receive a 1st in exchange of a player, until 2024.
They remind me of George Allen who always traded picks for players as he loved veterans.
I don't think Von Miller will work out well for them, as good as he is. He's getting older and has only played in 7 of the last 25 games.
They remind me of George Allen who always traded picks for players as he loved veterans.
I don't think Von Miller will work out well for them, as good as he is. He's getting older and has only played in 7 of the last 25 games.
UPennChem
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The AFC as whole just seems ridiculously weak. It does not seem like the NFC is that much stronger either lol. NFL is always full of parity, but this year seems even more ridiculously tight.
Corvus Purpura
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Maybe after taking Goff first overall in a draft which included players like Bosa, Ramsey, Henry, Dak Prescott, etc., they decided it was simply best if they never had a chance to screw up like that again.
they also screwed up the tank full of picks they got from the RG3 trade when the Skins trade back in 2012. I believe that was Les Sneads first year.
BoredMarine13
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To be fair, in that time, they’ve done well
2021: 7-2
2020: 10-6 (Divisional loss)
2019: 9-7
2018: 13-3(Super Bowl loss)
2017: 11-5 (wild card loss)
Sustainable?? Yea I doubt it , but hard to argue with 50-23 over a 4.5 year period
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I think they win SB this year
JoeyFlex5
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Yeah but he’s consistently looked like shit, reports of him in training camp basically said he was trash. There hasn’t been a single positive report on the guy in the 2 years he’s been in the league. There’s a reason you thought he was a fourth at best, because he never looked like a nfl qb, just a project, no need to blame the packers for him looking like what you thought he was lol
JoeyFlex5
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Opposing offenses have gotten less scoring opportunities than most teams because of our offense, that will skew the scoring, and that is trending in the complete opposite direction this season, which says that adjustments are clearly needed.
obviously it's somewhat related to time of possession but that just suggests we've been playing good complementary defence over that period...
im not pretending that the defence this year hasnt been worrying - but lots of people seem to be falling out of love with Wink and roundly criticising him and i think that's unfair and unearned
UPennChem
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The AFC is so weak that literally anyone could represent it in the superbowl. I think our team will go as far as injuries allow it. Simply can we just at any point just get back on track and not continue to just lose more and more guys? If we can get healthy even a little, I'm not scared of these other AFC teams. We're not great either, but we have LJ and his will to win.
I feel like defensively we can get a lot better but not really so much on offense.. oline and the injuries to our rbs is gonna hurt during playoffs..
UPennChem
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Our max on both sides is getting back Wolfe and Westry as well as Murray, Boyle and Mekari.
rmcjacket23
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I mean... how do we get better defensively? There's not an influx of injured talent that will return to make a difference. The difference, for the most part, is going to be about as healthy as it is.
Offensively, we can get Murray, Boyle, Mekari and Watkins back. That will, if nothing else, help our run game.
If we're going to "get better" on defense, it's going to be because the existing players who've been playing pretty much all year are just going to need to play better.
rmcjacket23
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The defense looks old, slow, and void of playmakers.
Look around... where are the young, quality defensive players on this team? It's basically Oweh and nothing else. I like Madubuike but he's certainly not a stud who can take over games. I'm not saying guys like Marlon and Peters and Young and frankly our whole secondary is necessarily that old, but they're certainly not young either.
It's night and day compared to the offense.
Dobbins 22, Bateman 23, Hollywood/Duvernay/Lamar/Mekari 24, Powers 25, Bozeman/Andrews/Gus 26, Ricard/Stanley 27.
Injuries aside, in a perfect year, you could fill out practically your entire offense with above average players who are 27 or younger.
Defensively, Marlon is 25, and Madubuike 24, Elliott 23, and Oweh is 22. Can throw Queen in there but he's been "demoted" essentially.
Houston, Bynes, Brandon Williams, Jimmy/McPhee (seems to be phasing out), Campbell... all over 30. Even your secondary, which includes Marlon, Young, Averett, Peters, and Clark, isn't exactly a "young" group.
They need youth, speed, and playmakers on this defense. And I suspect like 90% of our effort in the offseason will be doing just that. I think the FO will be more than willing to sacrifice a weaker offense to upgrade this defense. DeCosta may not be Ozzie, but I seriously doubt DeCosta or Harbaugh are going to tolerate trotting a defense out there that looks like this again.
that's my point, it isn't sustainable.