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I think they win SB this year
it's quite possible, but you can't keep doing that and expect to fill out the rest of the roster. Rookies contracts allow you to fill out the rest of the roster with good depth, if you can draft well enough. Now that they don't have a 1st round pick until 2024 how are they going to continue doing this.. What happens if one of these players doesn't pan out for them, ie Von Miller has had his share of injuries and has only played in 7 / 25 games.
 
I mean... how do we get better defensively? There's not an influx of injured talent that will return to make a difference. The difference, for the most part, is going to be about as healthy as it is.
Offensively, we can get Murray, Boyle, Mekari and Watkins back. That will, if nothing else, help our run game.

If we're going to "get better" on defense, it's going to be because the existing players who've been playing pretty much all year are just going to need to play better.
I just expect to see improvements from our defense before our offense.. our running backs and oline are simply not good so idk how murry and boyle are gonna change that. Yes boyle will help in theory but like our rbs arent good enough for me to see some changes.. i love our wr core, so i really just mean the run game and oline blocking..
 
I just expect to see improvements from our defense before our offense.. our running backs and oline are simply not good so idk how murry and boyle are gonna change that. Yes boyle will help in theory but like our rbs arent good enough for me to see some changes.. i love our wr core, so i really just mean the run game and oline blocking..
I mean eventually we should get Mekari back, who would be an upgrade over Tyre at RT, and could potentially see Tyre move back to LG, who I think is better than Powers.
It's not going to be dramatically better, but it'll improve, unless there's more injuries.

Defensively I'm just not sure you're going to see a ton of improvement. They can be better situationally but we're seeing a lot of the same issues week in and week out now, so it's becoming more of the norm than it is just a bad game here or there.
 
I don't ever want to be the rams. Soon enough their way of doing business will falter. They haven't had a 1st round pick since drafting Jared Goff 1st overall in 2016 and won't have one, unless they receive a 1st in exchange of a player, until 2024.

They remind me of George Allen who always traded picks for players as he loved veterans.

I don't think Von Miller will work out well for them, as good as he is. He's getting older and has only played in 7 of the last 25 games.

I think theyre trying to get Aaron Donald a ring now that he's 30yo. He's the best defensive tackle of all time so they're going all in before his play starts to decline.
 
I think theyre trying to get Aaron Donald a ring now that he's 30yo. He's the best defensive tackle of all time so they're going all in before his play starts to decline.
Best defensive tackle of all time. Maybe in the last 20 years, but there have been a lot of great defensive tackles in different eras. Hard to say if he is the best or not due to the eras that they have played in. Alan Page is right up there with one of the greatest DT of all time. He was absolutely incredible.

Is Aaron Donald a generational talent. Absolutely and I'm one that believes that term is thrown around too much in todays NFL.
 
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Well well well..

Looks like you made the wrong move Mr. Mason.

 
Bucky Brooks was right. We should’ve drafted Fields and let Lamar graduate. Amateurs.

 
I don't ever want to be the rams. Soon enough their way of doing business will falter. They haven't had a 1st round pick since drafting Jared Goff 1st overall in 2016 and won't have one, unless they receive a 1st in exchange of a player, until 2024.

They remind me of George Allen who always traded picks for players as he loved veterans.

I don't think Von Miller will work out well for them, as good as he is. He's getting older and has only played in 7 of the last 25 games.
I'd argue the opposite. It's refreshing to see a team who basically says "sure, we'll trade 5 years of mediocrity 5 years from now for 1-2 years of being a legit SB contender", and possibly even win one.

I'm not a big fan of trading away the sheer quantity of picks that they have, BUT, how realistic is it to expect that they'd be getting a better player at the back end of the first round that somebody they already have on their team? Like they've got weaknesses, but there aren't any huge one's, and there's certainly not many positions on that team where a player picked at, say, #30, is going to offer anything more than rotational play and depth. And if that's the case, why wouldn't I just go get a veteran at an affordable price who can help me win today?

Cap management is obviously the long term issue, because it's pretty hard to be able to afford a roster full of veterans. But in a league where it seems like a lot of teams are just happy to be relevant every year and never do enough to actually win a Lombardi, it's pretty refreshing to see a team who basically acknowledges the fact that they have a short window and they want to get it and get it now. And the future will be whatever it is.
 
I'd argue the opposite. It's refreshing to see a team who basically says "sure, we'll trade 5 years of mediocrity 5 years from now for 1-2 years of being a legit SB contender", and possibly even win one.

I'm not a big fan of trading away the sheer quantity of picks that they have, BUT, how realistic is it to expect that they'd be getting a better player at the back end of the first round that somebody they already have on their team? Like they've got weaknesses, but there aren't any huge one's, and there's certainly not many positions on that team where a player picked at, say, #30, is going to offer anything more than rotational play and depth. And if that's the case, why wouldn't I just go get a veteran at an affordable price who can help me win today?

Cap management is obviously the long term issue, because it's pretty hard to be able to afford a roster full of veterans. But in a league where it seems like a lot of teams are just happy to be relevant every year and never do enough to actually win a Lombardi, it's pretty refreshing to see a team who basically acknowledges the fact that they have a short window and they want to get it and get it now. And the future will be whatever it is.
I'm a believer in building a team through the draft and not trading away your early picks every year. I'm a fan of Von Miller also, but he hasn't shown the ability to stay healthy lately and is 30 years old. No guarantee that works for him and they have to pay him. Yes they have the cap space to do so, but the risk is if these players are injured you don't have much available to as depth either. Good thing McVay is a good offensive minded coach. I also think they gave up way too much for Stafford. Two 1sts, a 3rd and Jared Goff. This is my opinion and I don't see this as sustainable for any franchise. A couple trades here and there is fine.

btw, they have now traded away multiple 1st rounders and early rounders and haven't won anything. Close to winning a SB doesn't mean anything.
 
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Fields is the QB who should have converted to wr
I know Rossi is a big fan of Fields and yes he is young and could develop, but tell me what QB from Ohio State has every panned out, atleast in the last 20 years. Is Art Schlichter really the best one???? Maybe Fields becomes the first. For his sake, I certainly hope so.
 
I'm a believer in building a team through the draft and not trading away your early picks every year. I'm a fan of Von Miller also, but he hasn't shown the ability to stay healthy lately and is 30 years old. No guarantee that works for him and they have to pay him. Yes they have the cap space to do so, but the risk is if these players are injured you don't have much available to as depth either. Good thing McVay is a good offensive minded coach. I also think they gave up way too much for Stafford. Two 1sts, a 3rd and Jared Goff. This is my opinion and I don't see this as sustainable for any franchise. A couple trades here and there is fine.

btw, they have now traded away multiple 1st rounders and early rounders and haven't won anything. Close to winning a SB doesn't mean anything.
Well, they were in a SB, which is as close to winning a SB without doing it as it gets. That means a ton to most fans (or at least it should) because getting to a SB is extremely, extremely, extremely difficult. It's certainly not a negative on anyone's resume.
The only team that's really had more success in the last three years than the Rams is the Chiefs, Bucs, and maybe the Patriots. And notably, two of those teams are operating under basically the same philosophy, i.e. they're spending tons on veteran players, and trading away draft picks for them.

"Sustainable" is subjective. If you want to be relevant for a decade or more consistently, I agree with you. If you want to be at the top of the league for a 3-5 year period, possibly win a SB, and then fall back down to Earth, then so be it. I'd take the Rams last three seasons over the Ravens last decade (pretty much post SB win) any day of the week.
 
Best defensive tackle of all time. Maybe in the last 20 years, but there have been a lot of great defensive tackles in different eras. Hard to say if he is the best or not due to the eras that they have played in. Alan Page is right up there with one of the greatest DT of all time. He was absolutely incredible.

Is Aaron Donald a generational talent. Absolutely and I'm one that believes that term is thrown around too much in todays NFL.
He’s the greatest. No DT has ever been as dominant, there have been greats, but Donald is flat out ridiculous, he breaks the norms of football, he puts up edge rusher numbers as a DT and does it against double and triples regularly.

we have to stop over glorifying past players and using them to doubt/deny current players greatness, players today are far superior in every regard except for nastiness which isn’t a skill or a talent, and it doesn’t take being retired and entering the hall to be the greatest ever, you can appreciate a players greatness while they’re still playing, it took Brady leaving and winning a chip his first year in Tampa for half the football world to finally admit he’s the greatest ever when it should’ve been clear all the way back in 2014/15 that nobody can touch Brady’s greatness. We’re still going through it with Lamar, people still actually argue Vick and Cunningham were better dual threat qbs and that’s plain and simple rose tinted glasses about simpler times and has actually nothing to do with talent or production.
 
I'd argue the opposite. It's refreshing to see a team who basically says "sure, we'll trade 5 years of mediocrity 5 years from now for 1-2 years of being a legit SB contender", and possibly even win one.

I'm not a big fan of trading away the sheer quantity of picks that they have, BUT, how realistic is it to expect that they'd be getting a better player at the back end of the first round that somebody they already have on their team? Like they've got weaknesses, but there aren't any huge one's, and there's certainly not many positions on that team where a player picked at, say, #30, is going to offer anything more than rotational play and depth. And if that's the case, why wouldn't I just go get a veteran at an affordable price who can help me win today?

Cap management is obviously the long term issue, because it's pretty hard to be able to afford a roster full of veterans. But in a league where it seems like a lot of teams are just happy to be relevant every year and never do enough to actually win a Lombardi, it's pretty refreshing to see a team who basically acknowledges the fact that they have a short window and they want to get it and get it now. And the future will be whatever it is.
And making a move to get stafford was awesome, I really do applaud the rams for how they’ve done this, I like the innovation and the commitment to straight up trying to get a chip by all means before the core of the roster falls apart.

a small part of me feels like the ravens could’ve used a little bit more of this, but we keep the band together and then they all get injured instead lol
 
I know Rossi is a big fan of Fields and yes he is young and could develop, but tell me what QB from Ohio State has every panned out, atleast in the last 20 years. Is Art Schlichter really the best one???? Maybe Fields becomes the first. For his sake, I certainly hope so.

I’m still a fan of fields - he’s a rookie and he looks like a rookie in a not great situation but I’ve seen enough plays that show me what he can be that I’m still excited about his future - none of the 1st round QBs other than Mac Jones have really been put in a good situation this year - hard to judge and they’ve all struggled

but I’ve seen fields and Lawrence flash in ways that make you think they can put it together
 
He’s the greatest. No DT has ever been as dominant, there have been greats, but Donald is flat out ridiculous, he breaks the norms of football, he puts up edge rusher numbers as a DT and does it against double and triples regularly.

we have to stop over glorifying past players and using them to doubt/deny current players greatness, players today are far superior in every regard except for nastiness which isn’t a skill or a talent, and it doesn’t take being retired and entering the hall to be the greatest ever, you can appreciate a players greatness while they’re still playing, it took Brady leaving and winning a chip his first year in Tampa for half the football world to finally admit he’s the greatest ever when it should’ve been clear all the way back in 2014/15 that nobody can touch Brady’s greatness. We’re still going through it with Lamar, people still actually argue Vick and Cunningham were better dual threat qbs and that’s plain and simple rose tinted glasses about simpler times and has actually nothing to do with talent or production.

brady’s been so good for so long that you can split his career into the pre-gronk and post-gronk eras and both would be hall if fame careers on their own
 
And making a move to get stafford was awesome, I really do applaud the rams for how they’ve done this, I like the innovation and the commitment to straight up trying to get a chip by all means before the core of the roster falls apart.

a small part of me feels like the ravens could’ve used a little bit more of this, but we keep the band together and then they all get injured instead lol

And you can see EDC trying to bridge that gap between long-term stability and aggressive attempts to improve via trades etc.

he’s been unafraid of investigating and attempting to go after quality vets for picks but just not closed on a couple of them
 
Well, they were in a SB, which is as close to winning a SB without doing it as it gets. That means a ton to most fans (or at least it should) because getting to a SB is extremely, extremely, extremely difficult. It's certainly not a negative on anyone's resume.
The only team that's really had more success in the last three years than the Rams is the Chiefs, Bucs, and maybe the Patriots. And notably, two of those teams are operating under basically the same philosophy, i.e. they're spending tons on veteran players, and trading away draft picks for them.

"Sustainable" is subjective. If you want to be relevant for a decade or more consistently, I agree with you. If you want to be at the top of the league for a 3-5 year period, possibly win a SB, and then fall back down to Earth, then so be it. I'd take the Rams last three seasons over the Ravens last decade (pretty much post SB win) any day of the week.
ok, the Bucs and Patriots have signed veterans, but they haven't traded away 1st round picks year over year over year. No one has outside of the Rams, so don't try and compare them. They still are drafting players high in the draft, unlike the Rams.
 
He’s the greatest. No DT has ever been as dominant, there have been greats, but Donald is flat out ridiculous, he breaks the norms of football, he puts up edge rusher numbers as a DT and does it against double and triples regularly.

we have to stop over glorifying past players and using them to doubt/deny current players greatness, players today are far superior in every regard except for nastiness which isn’t a skill or a talent, and it doesn’t take being retired and entering the hall to be the greatest ever, you can appreciate a players greatness while they’re still playing, it took Brady leaving and winning a chip his first year in Tampa for half the football world to finally admit he’s the greatest ever when it should’ve been clear all the way back in 2014/15 that nobody can touch Brady’s greatness. We’re still going through it with Lamar, people still actually argue Vick and Cunningham were better dual threat qbs and that’s plain and simple rose tinted glasses about simpler times and has actually nothing to do with talent or production.
I didn't say he wasn't, but to say hands down he is without even considering players like Alan Page who put up big numbers and in 14 game seasons, plus had go back and check Alan Page's numbers. He had one season with 18 sacks in a 14 game season and in his career he had 148 sacks. Those 148 sacks also come in an era where they weren't passing as much. I've watched both of these guys play and both of them are / were dominant at their positions. Both of them are GOATs.

Just as you say we need to stop over glorifying past players, I'm going to say we need to stop bringing up current day players and automatically say they are the best. Most people on these boards haven't even seen the past players who were generational talents in their own right.

I'm still not convinced Brady is the greatest of all time, but I don't compare QBs from different eras. It was a different time, they passed the ball less, the defenses had different rules to defend offenses, which limited the numbers. I'd put Montana and possibly Sammy Baugh up their with Brady. I have Sammy Baugh as one of the greatest players of all time, period.
 
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brady’s been so good for so long that you can split his career into the pre-gronk and post-gronk eras and both would be hall if fame careers on their own
Yes and it took until halfway through his post gronk career for many to consider him the goat, and it wasn’t until Tampa that it practically became unanimous lol. Kinda proves my point that we over glorify past players for some odd reason
 
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