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The Random Thought Thread

marklar said:
Btw, has anyone seen specifics of Hayes injury? I always get baffled when players end up IRed/waived with injuries on cutdown day with no previous mention of it.

Such a contrast to the weekly injury report in season where they have to report if a player has a boo-boo on their pinky, but you canIR a player for a full season without disclosing anything
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we know he hadnt practiced for about a week before cutdown day and didnt feature in preseason 3 - but yeah no specifics beyond that
 
I’m just hoping Lamar doesn’t get into his own head trying to be Superman to prove he needs a world beater contract.
 
UPennChem said:
Why is there a 53 man roster but you have to have gameday inactives? And then on top of that you have the ability to call up people who aren't even on the team from the PS to play in games. Seems really stupid to me
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I guess these rules were cobbled up because of COVID and they're stuck for now. I like it though because it gives the Ravens great flexibility on who to call up and when. As long as they aren't poached by other teams, I'm sure they are not too concerned. I don't know how the protection of PS players works though. I am unclear about the rules there.
 
Dom McRaven said:
So how are you folks feeling about this upcoming season?

Me personally? I'm cautiously optimistic.
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I'm a born pessimist, so there's that... but I won't get comfortable until I know that Stanley & Peters (and to some extent Bowser) have recovered. If they aren't fully back early in the season, I don't think it looks very bright.
"Hope for the best, plan for the worst"
 
UPennChem said:
Why is there a 53 man roster but you have to have gameday inactives? And then on top of that you have the ability to call up people who aren't even on the team from the PS to play in games. Seems really stupid to me
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Competitive balance basically.
On a 53 man roster, how many of those guys are actually healthy enough to play? If one team has 5 guys who can't suit up, and the other has 10, you now have a team with access to five more players than the other.

They do a fixed number for everybody so that there's no advantage or disadvantage in terms of access to number of players on either side.
You could argue that's still not fair, which it's not, because some teams will be forced to dress injured players who won't play anyway, but it's at least reasonably close.

The PS call-ups were a product of Covid and I think everybody in the league liked it, so it stuck. Same with the IR rules. Covid made the NFL do some thinking about roster flexibility, and realized their previous rules were far too stringent.
 
marklar said:
I've never understood why you need a roster limit when you have a salary cap. If a team wats to spread the cap dollars on 60 people instead, why not let tem? Woukd be even more roster strategy
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Again, competitive balance. A roster of 60 players obviously has a depth advantage over a roster of 50 players.

That probably wouldn't matter to the players, but what would matter is the fact that they'd all get paid less. The salary cap doesn't go up if you expand the rosters... it remains the same. More players with same amount of $ = most players get paid less.

Only way the NFLPA signs off on material increases to roster sizes is with a material increase to the revenue sharing pool, which the Owners, of course, would be unlikely to agree to. For obvious reasons.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Competitive balance basically.
On a 53 man roster, how many of those guys are actually healthy enough to play? If one team has 5 guys who can't suit up, and the other has 10, you now have a team with access to five more players than the other.

They do a fixed number for everybody so that there's no advantage or disadvantage in terms of access to number of players on either side.
You could argue that's still not fair, which it's not, because some teams will be forced to dress injured players who won't play anyway, but it's at least reasonably close.

The PS call-ups were a product of Covid and I think everybody in the league liked it, so it stuck. Same with the IR rules. Covid made the NFL do some thinking about roster flexibility, and realized their previous rules were far too stringent.
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If you have that many people on a practice squad why can't they be flipped to the active roster for gameday. Just pay them an NFL salary for said game. If a player gets injured during a game it still creates a competitive imbalance let alone 2 or 3 injuries.
 
Willbacker said:
If you have that many people on a practice squad why can't they be flipped to the active roster for gameday. Just pay them an NFL salary for said game. If a player gets injured during a game it still creates a competitive imbalance let alone 2 or 3 injuries.
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1. You already get certain call-ups.
2. Again, if you're paying an entire PS an NFL salary for the entire season, that's more money for those players and less money for other players. Still same salary cap for everybody.

I agree in-game injuries create imbalance, but there's nothing that can be done about that. If Tom Brady gets hurt during the game, there's nothing on your PS that's going to overcome that imbalance.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
1. You already get certain call-ups.
2. Again, if you're paying an entire PS an NFL salary for the entire season, that's more money for those players and less money for other players. Still same salary cap for everybody.

I agree in-game injuries create imbalance, but there's nothing that can be done about that. If Tom Brady gets hurt during the game, there's nothing on your PS that's going to overcome that imbalance.
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All around I think you've made some good points that helped put things into perspective for me. For that I'm very appreciative. As a total thought experiment though, someone else brought up the idea of committing basically to the exact opposite of what the NFL currently does by allowing entirely flexible sized rosters, everyone just has to fit under the salary cap.

I don’t ever see it happening, but it would be a really different league where the quality of the GM I think would have an even bigger impact on who wins superbowls. Obviously the GM is already hugely important
 
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