Would rather James proche at qb
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Would rather James proche at qb
redrum52
Hall of Famer
Broncos draft day trade got us pitta
I don’t like that it might start encouraging defences to attack victory formations
I dnt think it will. Maybe if its vs winston lol
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
Deebo this is pretty cut and dry. On 2 points.
1) It's just a fact that you've lost control of your locker room if the players feel as if they can completely ignore the coaches playcall. If you listened to everything Jameis said, he said he talked to Dennis Allen and petitioned to call a running play and Allen said no. Jameis got thr team to buy into overriding him.
2) The WAY he overrided him isn't very sportsmanlike. It would be one thing to say we're gonna run a play and let the defense line up to stop it. But they did something sneaky to get the points.
You can't do this.
Dom McRaven
Hall of Famer
Yeaaaahhhhh, I'm with UPC on this one. I'm not mad at a team running up the score on a hated division rival. Had this been a scenario like what we did to the Broncos in 2021, I'd be fine with it though I wouldn't be fine with DA apologizing afterwards.
The fact that Jameis was able to get a coalition of players to override DA tells me that they don't respect him like that, regardless of what they say.
redrum52
Hall of Famer
Maybe you're not putting enough respect on Jameis name
Dom McRaven
Hall of Famer
I think Jameis is a very, very well-liked and respected teammate. Never denied that. But to do THAT? That's wild.
ndub
Ravens Ring of Honor
Reckon BB and Peyton's HCs over the years lost control of their locker room too when they'd both change the plays to totally different things? Reckon when Marino did the fake spike for a TD was inappropriate and unprofessional as it was sneaky tactics? Just questions, idk.
fake spike is different to fake kneel
rmcjacket23
Ravens Ring of Honor
Well couple things:
1. The mere act of doing it isn't that big of a deal. I have a slight problem with Winston selling out his own teammates and others around the league though, as from now on, if I'm the Dline, I'm just blowing up a kneel down. Somebody gets hurt, so be it. We'll just chalk that up to football. I think once fans see what the receiving side of that feels like, they'll get the hint.
2. If Winston was the "ring leader" like he says he was, he won't be back in NO. And he's not a guy that's going to get a shit load of opportunities. There's a 0% chance he's back if Dennis Allen keeps his job (which it seems like he will), and there's only a small chance he would be re-signed if a new HC is back. He's going to have trust issues with any HC that wants to take a chance on him going forward.
So that's on him. If he thinks getting a RB a charity TD in week 18 was worth him losing his job, so be it.
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
If Brady or Manning ignored a playcall, it's likely the case that it would be similar to how Lamar has responsibilities this year. QBs who are highly talented and long tenured with their teams are given this responsibility.
If some young or some other backup QB went rogue like that for another team I'd say that HC is probably not respected and lost their locker room too.
That being said, I'm no sure how the fake spike is even comparable. The fake spike was done with a clock ticking down by a HOF QB for a team that was trailing. Against a defense that was playing to stop them.
The fake kneel up 30 points is just shady
ndub
Ravens Ring of Honor
Like I said, just questions. I don't have an opinion on it either way because quite frankly, I don't give a dang
also with those guys, there's freedom built into the play and the playbook and the calling to allow them to change plays based on what they say
this is an entirely different situation with a different context
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
Exactly
Lmao, i didnt know he said that ring leader part..Maybe i dnt see the problem because its coming from jameis.. one thing we all have seen from this crazy mf is that he is a great teammate. You either like him or just get tired of his ass.. no matter what team jameis goes to, he gonna be a backup so i think he will still get a job. i will never have a problem with a team running up the score and i dnt its bad sportmanship neither..Crazy, how jameis running up the score is considered a sin when you got shannon shapre, on national tv… calling for another man to get fired from his job and people think thats ok..
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
It literally has nothing to do with running up the score though
Michael M.
Pro Bowler
Should we take Wink back if MM leaves?
rmcjacket23
Ravens Ring of Honor
Has less to do with running up the score, and more to do with doing something your coach told you not to do. That's the worst part about it... Jameis is doing things that he's not responsible for, and having others face the backlash for it. Accountability ain't never been his cup of tea.
He'll get a job, but he played for $4M this year. He'll likely be playing for less than that this year.
I would argue in this case its bad sportsmanship, considering the only reason you're doing it is because you were so inept offensively throughout the year that you couldn't get a RB on a TD in 18 weeks. Then you have to wait until the other team stops trying to get him one. Makes you look as weak as you already were.
rmcjacket23
Ravens Ring of Honor
No. Just hire Jesse Minter instead.