The Random Thought Thread

[rmcjacket23]

I'm not even saying the league is rigged as a whole but to go under the assumption no ref has altered games to benefit their pockets would be stupid. It also would take a blind man to accept that for whatever reason crucial moments and momentum flags are usually in their favor. Can you say some of the calls are right? No doubt. My question is where are the calls against them in those same instances? Many of these flags are subjective especially in the playoffs where teams are allowed to push the limits.

Then there's the fact in the season when you could review PI they flat out acted like bitches when they were challenged.

But its not one ref. You need dozens of refs conspiring to benefit their own pockets. It's never one ref. Or two refs. Or three refs. Its dozens. Literally dozens.

I think selling it from a gambling perspective is near impossible in today's climate. We know that sportsbooks alone won't prevent these guys from betting directly, and if they're doing it indirectly, the size of wagers these officials would need to be making to get the payoff that commensurate with the risk they're taking would have to be large enough that sportsbooks would simply say "no thank you" to the wager.

Go to any sportsbook in America, online or live, and try putting down 5 or 6 figures on any aspect of any game. They will decline your wager, because they don't know you.

 

[rmcjacket23]

and that is the problem

It's an optics problem. Not an output problem.

 

[RavensMania]

It's an optics problem. Not an output problem.

it's a competency problem and that hasn't just gone downhill, it's fallen off a cliff. The NFL could do better, if they wanted to. They have made the choice not to because they still get the ratings regardless. That isn't a good reason.

 

[rmcjacket23]

it's a competency problem and that hasn't just gone downhill, it's fallen off a cliff. The NFL could do better, if they wanted to. They have made the choice not to because they still get the ratings regardless. That isn't a good reason.

Why isn't it a good reason? What decisions do the NFL make that aren't largely driven by how much $ they make?

 

[RavensMania]

I don't know if anyone has seen this interview that McShay did with Eric DeCosta. EDC does give confirmation that it was his idea to go and draft Lamar Jackson. I believe most of us thought this, but with it being Ozzie's last draft we never had confirmation.

 

[gtalk12]

Imagine if we gave younger Flacco Derrick Henry, Likey, Andrews , Bateman and Flowers

Pitta, Boldin, Torrey, and Ray Rice say hello

 

[allblackraven]

I don't know if anyone has seen this interview that McShay did with Eric DeCosta. EDC does give confirmation that it was his idea to go and draft Lamar Jackson. I believe most of us thought this, but with it being Ozzie's last draft we never had confirmation.

Was just going to post this. I really enjoyed the interview.

 

[RavensMania]

Was just going to post this. I really enjoyed the interview.

same. really well done.

 

[RavensMania]

Pitta, Boldin, Torrey, and Ray Rice say hello

Steve Smith says hello

 

[Tank]

Pitta, Boldin, Torrey, and Ray Rice say hello

Pitta, Boldin, and RR were either gone or done after 2012. Torrey’s last year was 2014.

 

[RaineV1]

Pitta, Boldin, Torrey, and Ray Rice say hello

I'll give you Pitta, Rice, and Boldin, but Torrey wasn't on the level of Bateman or Flowers. I like the guy, but he has to be forcefed the ball by us, and did very little after leaving.

Though the biggest issue of the offense back then though was simply coaching. We complain about Monken at times, but he's ten times the play caller than most OCs we've had. Kubiak is the only past one I might take over him.

 

[Tank]

Steve Smith says hello

So do Tandon Doss, Marlon Brown, Ed Dickson, Billy Bajema, Kamar Aiken, Bernard Pierce, Crockett Gilmore, Michael Campanero, etc., etc..

 

[gtalk12]

I'll give you Pitta, Rice, and Boldin, but Torrey wasn't on the level of Bateman or Flowers. I like the guy, but he has to be forcefed the ball by us, and did very little after leaving.

Though the biggest issue of the offense back then though was simply coaching. We complain about Monken at times, but he's ten times the play caller than most OCs we've had. Kubiak is the only past one I might take over him.

Torrey was better at tracking deep passes and was the PI drawing king.

 

[SepticeyePoe]

So do Tandon Doss, Marlon Brown, Ed Dickson, Billy Bajema, Kamar Aiken, Bernard Pierce, Crockett Gilmore, Michael Campanero, etc., etc..

Dallas Clark, Owen Daniels, Ben Watson

 

[Truth]

21 reserved as well.

 

[redrum52]

I'll give you Pitta, Rice, and Boldin, but Torrey wasn't on the level of Bateman or Flowers. I like the guy, but he has to be forcefed the ball by us, and did very little after leaving.

Though the biggest issue of the offense back then though was simply coaching. We complain about Monken at times, but he's ten times the play caller than most OCs we've had. Kubiak is the only past one I might take over him.

Torrey was a deep threat and used as such. Was good tracking, adjusting and drawing flags.

Oh man... Cam vs Roman. I want to believe Roman worse, but that might be recency bias.

Going into week 9 of the season half the fans wanted Bateman in a guillotine.

And even with his best weapons we still never knew what Flacco we'd get on a week to week basis.

 

[Deebo813]

I'll give you Pitta, Rice, and Boldin, but Torrey wasn't on the level of Bateman or Flowers. I like the guy, but he has to be forcefed the ball by us, and did very little after leaving.

Though the biggest issue of the offense back then though was simply coaching. We complain about Monken at times, but he's ten times the play caller than most OCs we've had. Kubiak is the only past one I might take over him.

Id take monken over kubiak..

 

[JoeyFlex5]

So do Tandon Doss, Marlon Brown, Ed Dickson, Billy Bajema, Kamar Aiken, Bernard Pierce, Crockett Gilmore, Michael Campanero, etc., etc..

Marlontron

What a disappointment that turned out to be

 

[JoeyFlex5]

Torrey was a deep threat and used as such. Was good tracking, adjusting and drawing flags.

Oh man... Cam vs Roman. I want to believe Roman worse, but that might be recency bias.

Going into week 9 of the season half the fans wanted Bateman in a guillotine.

And even with his best weapons we still never knew what Flacco we'd get on a week to week basis.

Cam was worse

Roman for all his faults is an absolute madman dialing up a run game, only one comparable is kubiak. Cam had a decent little run scheme and it relied on gimmick shit like frequent unbalanced lines, extra OL, and full time FBs, and it still couldn’t have matched Roman’s output on the ground.

And then he really didn’t do shit for the pass game, it seemed to be almost entirely fades and curls

 

[allblackraven]

Id take monken over kubiak..

One hundred percent.

Fuck that traitor.