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The Random Thought Thread

RaineV1 said:
I'll give you Pitta, Rice, and Boldin, but Torrey wasn't on the level of Bateman or Flowers. I like the guy, but he has to be forcefed the ball by us, and did very little after leaving.

Though the biggest issue of the offense back then though was simply coaching. We complain about Monken at times, but he's ten times the play caller than most OCs we've had. Kubiak is the only past one I might take over him.
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5 different OCs in 10 years. not good.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Cam was worse

Roman for all his faults is an absolute madman dialing up a run game, only one comparable is kubiak. Cam had a decent little run scheme and it relied on gimmick shit like frequent unbalanced lines, extra OL, and full time FBs, and it still couldn’t have matched Roman’s output on the ground.

And then he really didn’t do shit for the pass game, it seemed to be almost entirely fades and curls
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How effective was Roman's run game without Lamar?

Think some are trying to rewrite the books here and not surprised at all lol
 
redrum52 said:
Had no idea that was tonight. Did they change the date?

And yall need to leave that man Kubiak alone.
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Not sure but the NFL tweeted will Josh Allen be MVP? I think Lamar is going to get snubbed concluding this as a failed season and another disappointment
 
redrum52 said:
Had no idea that was tonight. Did they change the date?

And yall need to leave that man Kubiak alone.
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I think it was maybe 2-3 years ago they changed the NFL Honors to the Thursday before the SB.

I had a feeling since they were trying so hard to crown Allen as the MVP the end of the season that it would be him and not Lamar. The voting is done before the playoffs. Hope at least one of our guys gets into the Hall of Fame.
 
redrum52 said:
Torrey was a deep threat and used as such. Was good tracking, adjusting and drawing flags.

Oh man... Cam vs Roman. I want to believe Roman worse, but that might be recency bias.

Going into week 9 of the season half the fans wanted Bateman in a guillotine.

And even with his best weapons we still never knew what Flacco we'd get on a week to week basis.
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I was just about to type a huge list of reasons why Roman was worse than Cameron, then I sold myself the other way.

Roman was bailed out consistently by the play of Lamar. While Roman's scheme is very archaic, at least his scheme actually produced some of the best rushing offenses of all time. It has its limits and definitely has a ceiling come playoffs, it also beats up on lesser opponents pretty easily for some easy wins. And I do think that Roman's scheme has a place in the NFL to help young teams start a winning culture, even if it means that it handicaps growth and has only two WRs running the same route into each other.

Cam's offense was mostly hated for the predictability (run, run, pass) just like Greg's, but I would say less successful and less dynamic of a run scheme. Plus that 2012 Ravens team specifically scored 17 points or less 6 times. And while I know the Ravens offense was battling o-line issues, it turned around and became the offense to win the SuperBowl.

So I would argue Cam was worse, at least Roman's offense makes sense in the NFL today.
 
redrum52 said:
How effective was Roman's run game without Lamar?

Think some are trying to rewrite the books here and not surprised at all lol
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Yeah the drop off even to Huntley is wild... Huntley is 5-9 as a starter. Lamar was winning 75% of his games even with Roman.
 
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redrum52 said:
How effective was Roman's run game without Lamar?

Think some are trying to rewrite the books here and not surprised at all lol
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Roman’s run game has always been successful. It was also successful with Alex smith, Colin kaepernick, tyrod Taylor, Tyler Huntley, and Justin Herbert. Hes also had pretty high end TE production too. It’s the wrs who suffer terribly and what ultimately handicaps the offense and its development.

Cam Cameron, he didn’t handicap WRs, actually gave them a chance to shine, but only if they were supremely talented at winning up and down the sideline on low percentage throws. He would handicap the QB terribly, as one dimensional as Roman’s offense, but the run game was less dynamic and the bulk of the throws were even lower percentage than what Roman dialed up. At least Roman could draw up a quality dagger concept or a TE deep over route at times, cam was almost entirely curls, deep comebacks to the far side(which was only possible due to joes elite drive on the ball) and go routes, and he would arrogantly call these with WRs who suck at these concepts.

Ray rice making miracles out of dumpoffs bailed out cam Cameron every bit as much as Lamar bailed out Roman.
 
Sooky said:
Yeah the drop off even to Huntley is wild... Huntley is 5-9 as a starter. Lamar was winning 75% of his games even with Roman.
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Tbf Huntley is ass, horrible passer, and the run game was far from the reason we were going 5-9.

Matter of fact in 21/22 when Huntley had to step in, the schematics of the run game is the whole reason we stayed competitive in those games. We had a shit OL and shit receivers. There was always one more blocker than there was defenders, as much as I can’t stand Roman, he’s responsible for that.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Tbf Huntley is ass, horrible passer, and the run game was far from the reason we were going 5-9.

Matter of fact in 21/22 when Huntley had to step in, the schematics of the run game is the whole reason we stayed competitive in those games. We had a shit OL and shit receivers. There was always one more blocker than there was defenders, as much as I can’t stand Roman, he’s responsible for that.
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I was sooo disappointed in people on this board for thinking huntley was anything other than ass
 
As a Tyreek owner this year, I knew my season was over when Tyler was announced the starter

You have to watch Huntley play football just to appreciate how beyond-ass he truly is
 
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