The Random Thought Thread

[Tank]

Are Training Camp tickets available on Ticketmaster or Seat Geek?

There have been changes this year, so I'm not sure of the procedure now. But in the past it's been like a lottery, and it's hit or miss to get the day you want. Encouraging though is what they've said about the shuttle system allowing for more tickets to be distributed, so better odds you won't get shut out. Keep tabs on this page for specifics when they are published.

 

[JO_75]

There have been changes this year, so I'm not sure of the procedure now. But in the past it's been like a lottery, and it's hit or miss to get the day you want. Encouraging though is what they've said about the shuttle system allowing for more tickets to be distributed, so better odds you won't get shut out. Keep tabs on this page for specifics when they are published.

I saw nothing on there about where or how to get tickets. It says PSL Owners have first access at 9am so I figured maybe a PSL Owner on here might already have that information. I already have a few hotels picked out, just need to ensure I get a ticket at 11am for the general public.

 

[Tank]

I saw nothing on there about where or how to get tickets. It says PSL Owners have first access at 9am so I figured maybe a PSL Owner on here might already have that information. I already have a few hotels picked out, just need to ensure I get a ticket at 11am for the general public.

Right, because the info hasn't been posted yet.

The former method was like a lottery. You input your first and second choice and you were notified later whether you got the pass or not.

 

[JO_75]

That was fun while it lasted, now America can go back to not caring about Soccer for another 4 years. Also we are one month away from the Hall of Fame Game in Canton, OH between the Cardinals & Panthers.

 

[Raven y de Velez]

It doesn't make a damn difference anyways. Maybe you get past Belgium, but thats it. Good world cup tho

Nailed it

 

[UKRaven1827]

Yes but there have been a LOT of bs red cards over the past 60 years (like a LOT). If none of those were corrected then it doesnt feel like the right decision was made. It feels more like watching them throw a flag for RTP on Mahomes for brushing against him when we watch them powerbomb Lamar with no call. While technically the former might be RTP be the letter they are not giving those calls to anyone else and it feels bs.

The red card wasn't even BS. The rules of the game are as they are and you could easily interpret that as a red. Id rather not see red cards for tackles like that but the decision to overturn/suspend was ridiculous.

Decent World Cup for the US though, they will only get better with the amount of young guys they have coming over here to the top academies/teams in top leagues. Now for England to win it and Ravens to win the Super Bowl.

 

[Tank]

Nailed it

Gee, you are a savant. lol

 

[Tank]

Nervy play in the first half put USA in a hole. Played much better in the second half, until the dumb, stupid mistakes just took the air out of the team. Sound familiar? lol. The screw up by Freese just can’t happen at this level.

I hope we’re able to retain Mauricio, he’s one of the world’s best and did a lot in a comparatively short time. And they have to find some better talent on the back end, especially a keeper.

 

[Tank]

The red card wasn't even BS. The rules of the game are as they are and you could easily interpret that as a red. Id rather not see red cards for tackles like that but the decision to overturn/suspend was ridiculous.

You could view it that way, but most opinions seem to say that it was BS.
What about the FIFA decision to suspend Cristiano’s suspension?

I’m a fan of England and they match up well against Norway. Stopping Haaland may be a problem. Should be a great game.

 

[UKRaven1827]

I think it meets the rules to be a red card, I just don't like that rule would be my position. I would be astonished if that was overturned in league football so the optics of a host nation having a decision overruled and the subsequent comments from Trump just don't sit right with me. The Ronaldo decision was equally concerning, Moreso, probably given his was a violent conduct issue.

The US have put on a incredible tournament though and I wont let that overshadow it. I wasn't able to get over, saving my money for a trip to Baltimore this year but I have friends out there who have the time of their lives. Hopefully another big win for us vs a good Norway team in Miami.

 

[rmcjacket23]

I think it meets the rules to be a red card, I just don't like that rule would be my position. I would be astonished if that was overturned in league football so the optics of a host nation having a decision overruled and the subsequent comments from Trump just don't sit right with me. The Ronaldo decision was equally concerning, Moreso, probably given his was a violent conduct issue.

The US have put on a incredible tournament though and I wont let that overshadow it. I wasn't able to get over, saving my money for a trip to Baltimore this year but I have friends out there who have the time of their lives. Hopefully another big win for us vs a good Norway team in Miami.

I don't really have a dog in this fight. But as an American, who also has a son who plays competitive Soccer, that red card is precisely the reason why most people in the US think professional soccer players are just massive, massive, massive pussys.

Its bad enough that ever two minutes somebody is writhing in pain on the ground like they just got sniped from 200 yards away in the leg, but then miraculously recover to full sprint mode seconds later when they don't hear a whistle. It's definitely being a pussy, but we've become accustomed to that.

The only basis for a red card in that spot is "he MIGHT have hurt somebody". Didn't actually hurt them. Just "MIGHT" have. That's why soccer gets viewed so poorly domestically among large scale fans.

Best thing the coaches for my son's teams have done... if you're down writhing in pain for more than about 5 seconds, you're off the field. You get subbed out. Maybe you come back on, maybe you don't. So either you're actually hurt, and you need to come off, or you're exaggerating a boo boo in an attempt to goad the ref into calling something. And in youth sports, they call virtually nothing, which is refreshing.

 

[Simba]

I don't really have a dog in this fight. But as an American, who also has a son who plays competitive Soccer, that red card is precisely the reason why most people in the US think professional soccer players are just massive, massive, massive pussys.

Its bad enough that ever two minutes somebody is writhing in pain on the ground like they just got sniped from 200 yards away in the leg, but then miraculously recover to full sprint mode seconds later when they don't hear a whistle. It's definitely being a pussy, but we've become accustomed to that.

The only basis for a red card in that spot is "he MIGHT have hurt somebody". Didn't actually hurt them. Just "MIGHT" have. That's why soccer gets viewed so poorly domestically among large scale fans.

Best thing the coaches for my son's teams have done... if you're down writhing in pain for more than about 5 seconds, you're off the field. You get subbed out. Maybe you come back on, maybe you don't. So either you're actually hurt, and you need to come off, or you're exaggerating a boo boo in an attempt to goad the ref into calling something. And in youth sports, they call virtually nothing, which is refreshing.

I grew up playing soccer and my dad and/or coaches would have beat my ass and sat me on the bench if I played the game like that. Drawing fouls is always part of the game but it's not hard to fall and get back up. Never understood the reason why you need to act like you just got shot when someone taps your ankle.

The refs have completely losetcontrol of the sport too, but hey, that's probably also FIFA's doing.

 

[JAAM]

Really wanna try this but I don’t want some gay ass pants

 

[Simba]

Also thought the US played terribly from whistle to whistle. Not a lot of redeeming qualities in that performance. True showing of what a quality opponent can do, because the skill gap was massive. We always knew Ream and Freese were going to be problems, but it was just a matter of when. The attack was putrid. They thought they could just dribble through the defense like they were playing against Bosnia again, but Belgium was calm cool and collected and it resulted in nothing. US had no answers once their bread and butter of beating up on lesser opponents was taken away.

Best thing the US can do is develop a pipeline for the young talent to flow into Europe at a young age. Playing in MLS academies and against CONCACAF teams on a national level at a young age isn't doing enough for development when it really counts.

 

[Adreme]

I don't really have a dog in this fight. But as an American, who also has a son who plays competitive Soccer, that red card is precisely the reason why most people in the US think professional soccer players are just massive, massive, massive pussys.

Its bad enough that ever two minutes somebody is writhing in pain on the ground like they just got sniped from 200 yards away in the leg, but then miraculously recover to full sprint mode seconds later when they don't hear a whistle. It's definitely being a pussy, but we've become accustomed to that.

The only basis for a red card in that spot is "he MIGHT have hurt somebody". Didn't actually hurt them. Just "MIGHT" have. That's why soccer gets viewed so poorly domestically among large scale fans.

Best thing the coaches for my son's teams have done... if you're down writhing in pain for more than about 5 seconds, you're off the field. You get subbed out. Maybe you come back on, maybe you don't. So either you're actually hurt, and you need to come off, or you're exaggerating a boo boo in an attempt to goad the ref into calling something. And in youth sports, they call virtually nothing, which is refreshing.

Half the penalties in football are because someone might get hurt doing it. Pretty much every RTP falls under that category as do most of the rules about tackling. Every sport has a penalty for dangerous plays and for soccer getting the cleats at the back of the leg is one of the more dangerous plays.

 

[RavensMania]

I grew up playing soccer and my dad and/or coaches would have beat my ass and sat me on the bench if I played the game like that. Drawing fouls is always part of the game but it's not hard to fall and get back up. Never understood the reason why you need to act like you just got shot when someone taps your ankle.

The refs have completely lose control of the sport too, but hey, that's probably also FIFA's doing.

I played for my high school and finished a game with a broken nose.

 

[Tank]

I played for my high school and finished a game with a broken nose.

Good thing you don't kick with your nose! Or is that how you broke it? lol

 

[rossihunter2]

Yeah I don't think people realize how bad FIFA is. The 2022 WC in Qatar (!) that lined all FIFA executive pockets is a far greater scandal than any of this and no one cares anymore.

i mean this is just one of may scandals around this WC
and the engineering of the next WC hosts to pave the way for Saudi Arabia to host the one after is equally scandalous

gianni infantino is one of the most gutless horrible losers in sports
so corrupt that he's getting called out by sepp blatter, who was his incredibly corrupt predecessor

the way this tournament has been handled by FIFA has been outrageous - almost every decision has been gutless, corrupt and seemingly made on a whim and not with the rulebook in hand

 

[rossihunter2]

I think it meets the rules to be a red card, I just don't like that rule would be my position. I would be astonished if that was overturned in league football so the optics of a host nation having a decision overruled and the subsequent comments from Trump just don't sit right with me. The Ronaldo decision was equally concerning, Moreso, probably given his was a violent conduct issue.

The US have put on a incredible tournament though and I wont let that overshadow it. I wasn't able to get over, saving my money for a trip to Baltimore this year but I have friends out there who have the time of their lives. Hopefully another big win for us vs a good Norway team in Miami.

this is the thing
intent doesnt matter in football at all unless the contact is truly innocuous (like a clash of heads)

if you enter a contact situation and you happen to get it wrong (even without intent) you are at risk of punishment depending on severity

 

[rossihunter2]

I grew up playing soccer and my dad and/or coaches would have beat my ass and sat me on the bench if I played the game like that. Drawing fouls is always part of the game but it's not hard to fall and get back up. Never understood the reason why you need to act like you just got shot when someone taps your ankle.

The refs have completely lose control of the sport too, but hey, that's probably also FIFA's doing.

the problem at professional level is that referees don't referee contact avoidance, and the game is played at such pace that minor contacts to cause major differences where they wouldnt necessarily do so at kid or amateur level - and small advantages are going to be manipulated either way (if you give defenders more leeway to be physical they will push those boundaries as far as they can)

an attacker has no incentive to avoid a tackle going through on goal because in the act of doing so he might trip or fall or make a tougher chance and he won't get any benefit from the referee for doing so - if a defender slides in, misses the ball and the attack jumps over the tackle but then falls over, it's play on even though that jump is forced by an illegal tackle

he's incentivised by the way those situations are refereed to take the contact which is why you see so many going to ground on soft contact - to force the referee to make the decision they wouldnt give if you tried to avoid the contact

the only way to fix it is to play advantage and punish defenders for challenges that would otherwise be fouls even when attackers try and avoid them - and then you bring in a whole extra level of judgement to the referee's decision making which given the current level of refereeing in the game is probably not a good thing