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Joe Flacco

gtalk12 said:
Flacco is going through what Eli is going through at this point.

That O-line man....outside of Stanley?
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yep, Eli is in total regress mode. Flowers is a total bust at this point. He never should have been playing tackle in this league, especially LT. I thought for sure they would have moved him inside or atleast to the right side.
 
RavensMania said:
correct, this is a team game. If everyone is playing bad around you, especially the offensive line, then chances are the qb is going to play bad also.

This is a challenge for everyone that will go unanswered. Name a franchise qb that was consistently the best in the league that had a bad offensive line. There was no one, absolutely no top flight qb had a bad offensive line. Yes, Flacco has sucked the last couple of years and he's never been an elite qb, but now when he has a couple good wr's he has no offensive line. It makes no sense at all.
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I can agree with this @RavensMania but the reality is that as you mentioned, Flacco has sucked ass for years now and he's getting worse.

gtalk12 said:
Flacco is going through what Eli is going through at this point.

That O-line man....outside of Stanley?
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I ran into a Lions fan on Friday. He told me; "We got y'all (Ravens) this season." I told him..."Were not the Giants" You know what his IMMEDIATE response to that was? He said; "We (Lions fans) put Flacco in the same category as Eli though! So, it doesn't matter!"
 
balfan23 said:
Man - yesterday was really, really bad. I mean off the charts awful. Not just Joe, but pretty much the whole damn team.

In order for us to move on from Flacco, it is going to take a cataclysmic failure this year. A dreadful season of epic proportions. Why? Because as an organization we've continued to double-down on Joe. With every extension and restructure we've bulldozed piles of cash into out-years of his seemingly never ending contract.

Cutting him lose next year is going to signal a years long rebuild that will take 3-4 to get back to .500 ... and that's ONLY IF we draw a top 5 pick next year, nail a promising young QB and have that pick pan out. That's going to be hard to do, because we'll be waving goodbye to multiple FAs along the way, as we recover from the bloated contracts we're having to get out from under. We'll net lose $4M tossing Flacco out in 2018.

So we're going to have to go 2-12 for the remainder of this year to take this approach. After seeing this team yesterday, this is entirely possible, but then - it might not be. We have to see how the rest of this season plays out.
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I don’t think it will take all that for the Ravens to move on from him. Steve has been saying for a while now publicly that the Ravens expect more from Joe. It’s nine games straight that Joe has thrown a pick which I think is an NFL record. I don’t know what to say to that besides the fact that it’s a horrible stat line. INT's are detrimental to the team and throwing it in 9 straight games is one of the worst things you can do. The Ravens have paid Joe a lot of money and have been asking for a return in their investment for 3 seasons now, I don’t know if they can take asking it for the 4th time if not only we miss the post-season again but have a bad year. Biscotti isn’t the type of owner who is in the business just to make money, he also wants to see his team win and I think Harbaugh is going to have his seat heating up if things go south this season.
 
RavensFan419 said:
You didn't answer my question in a TEAM game how do you expect one person to do well when the TEAM is playing awful the TEAM you aren't answering my question
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R.E.L.A.X. :p:D

1st...this is a thread about ONE player...JOE FLACCO....not the TEAM!

2nd...although a TEAM may play poorly, there are still individual players on that team that can actually play well. Case and point; Jimmy Smith and Marlon Humphrey were still able to DO THEIR JOBS in the midst of a horrendous defensive performance by other TEAM members. And Flacco? Did he do that? Could he still play well when other team members were playing poorly? Let's see. Umm, the man threw for 8-18, 28 yards and 2 INT's. He's trash man! Accept it!

Here is a brief excerpt of what the panel discussed on "THE AFTERMATH" Live show on the NFL Network:

Analyst: "For this Ravens offense, it was ugly! It was ugly all day long. And Joe Flacco, you look at his numbers from the first half and it's like; God, this can't be right! And then, it just continued in the 2nd half. So, what does this tell us about the offense for the Ravens?"

Analyst: "I'm not sure you can call it an offense! Look, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF BAD FOOTBALL OUT OF JOE SINCE THAT SUPER BOWL RUN!"

Analyst: "Joe Flacco and this offense; this isn't the first time that we've seen this! They have not been good offensively in 3 or 4 years and I don't know if they are necessarily going to be able to figure it out."

Analyst: "You can talk about the O-line and injuries etc, etc, etc,; but there are certain types of teams, that you have to play a certain type of way if you're going to be successful...."

Analyst: "Who is their play maker? Who is their play maker?"

Analyst: "It's suppose to be their QUARTERBACK!"
 
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I'm mad it took some of you a new board to see what some have been saying... And I don't mean a certain group who flashed blind hatred, but those who presented facts and then the easy eye test... or the numbers.


I do have confidence in a bounce back game... followed by a breakout season, though.
 
Still can't get rid of joe for at least 2 years though. It is what it is.

But I still think the same thing I always have, joe flacco with a good OL and strong run game will win you games. He has produced over the years with a perpetual dogshit wr corps. When your best wr corps features boldin, Torrey, and jacoby jones as your main 3, and you win a goddamn super bowl with that, it's saying something. He had something that year though that he hasn't had since, a great OL. 2014 was a fluke based on kubiak, the easy proof is because we had James hurst and john urschel starting in those playoff games and they still looked good, if not for kubiak then that OL would've been a disaster as well.

We should've invested in the OL in the 2016 second and third round, and gave more focus to it early on in 2015. This team may be in a completely different place. Until we get a good deep OL we're gonna look like shit and flacco is gonna look like shit. It is what it is, he doesn't play well when throwing 40 times a game and getting pressured on 39 of those snaps.
 
allblackraven said:
I'm sure you could today find 10 teams happy to trade for him, give us good picks and eat all the money, too.
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Flacco aint leaving unless an amazing offer is made. We're still going to eat the money. The question is can we put something around him to help him out? Everyone clamoring for offense will most likely get their wish in the off season. OL obviously needs help and not having to keep changing out personnel on offense because we have reliable guys at each spot might help.
 
redrum52 said:
Flacco aint leaving unless an amazing offer is made. We're still going to eat the money. The question is can we put something around him to help him out? Everyone clamoring for offense will most likely get their wish in the off season. OL obviously needs help and not having to keep changing out personnel on offense because we have reliable guys at each spot might help.
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It might be too late now to fix the O line for this season.
For the next one, we're not fixing it through draft considering what's coming out of college and we might again struggle with cap space to do it through FA
 
What if we have a top 15 pick and Lamar Jackson, Josh Rosen and Josh Allen are available? Do we take one of them if Flacco has a terrible year?
 
JAAM said:
What if we have a top 15 pick and Lamar Jackson, Josh Rosen and Josh Allen are available? Do we take one of them if Flacco has a terrible year?
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I doubt Rosen falls into the teens. The other two are probably not day one starters who could go anywhere in round one. Quality of game aside, Jackson needs to bulk up before I could see him starting.
 
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