Sounds like they're waiting on today's results. But yes, still the same thing... you couldn't have made that decision last night instead of telling them when people are already there? They're clueless right now and they look so bad.
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Sounds like they're waiting on today's results. But yes, still the same thing... you couldn't have made that decision last night instead of telling them when people are already there? They're clueless right now and they look so bad.
i havent seen zrebiec say that but i saw someone around thursday/friday suggest that based on player social media but i couldnt find any evidence of that when i looked through player's posts and stories
but it was alleged that 1 player had been at a kid's bday party while unmasked and another had been somewhere else
i just dont understand how we're over a week into this large-scale outbreak and yet the NFL can't even stick to one plan
well beyond the obvious and seemingly only plan they have which is that this game will be played...
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I agree. And again, my theory (thought it's not really mine) is that some of the newer tests are unrelated to the "original outbreak". If that's true, then the Ravens are just making too many mistakes and putting the league in a bind.
If its not true, sure, I agree with the inconsistency on the NFL's side.
To be honest, I don't really care about the practicing or any of the nonsense. The only thing I'll really fault the NFL for is going forward with the game if they can't get a day or two of cleared testing in beforehand. Everything else I put solely on the Ravens hands.
Like I'm ignoring Steelers gripes until the point where the NFL postpones this game until later in the year and the Ravens get rest, recovery and a full complement of players for their next meeting. The Steelers would be absolutely punished, unfairly, for that. If the Ravens don't get the practice, tough shit. If they don't get to fly out until morning, tough shit. All the cost of not be vigilant.
Some of the NFL's protocols and policies are not great. And obviously, even as much as they say it, there's no way "player safety" is the priority, because if it was, there would be no season.
That being said... I've read many things about the NFL's protocols and policies in regards to COVID. And based on what I've read, and what I've seen in terms of guidance of the CDC and various other medical institutions, their protocols are damn near close to "world class" in terms of preventing outbreaks, or at least, in the context of a physical contact sport.
That being said... I equate this situation to the episode of Seinfeld where Jerry's apartment is robbed because Kramer leaves the door open. Jerry buys the most impenetrable door lock on the market. And as he says... it has only one known flaw. In order to work, the door, must be closed.
In order for the protocols to work, they must be followed. If they're not, all bets are off. This is what it looks like. I promise over the next few weeks the NFL will peal back the onion on this, and find many ways by which the Ravens screwed the pooch. Draft pick or picks will be taken away. Fines will be large. Its inevitable.
And if this happened in another locker room, I'd be all for forcing the team to play with half their roster gone and no practice time. I don't even think you can argue its not fair at this point. The only thing I wouldn't make them do is play without at least short term proof of contained spread, which we don't have.
Oh it's definitely our fault. I'm not going to sit here and absolve the Ravens by any means. I have strong doubts that Saunders was the only one that broke protocol - there had to be more at play for this many guys to have had it at this point. And if it is more against us than this one incident that has spread as wide as it has, well then place more blame on us. But I also don't think you can send a team on a plane, on busses, in hotels, and to a game knowing damn well that we've had 8 straight days of positive tests. Yes, it sucks for the Steelers but consider the alternative if they do not have this under control. And right now, it's hard to believe they do have anything under control.
Force us to play with a team full of practice squad guys? Sure, IF you can confirm that the outbreak has stopped. Right now, I have 0 confidence that is actually the case and the NFL would be foolish to think so, especially with some of the public statements they've given that have turned out to be wrong so far.
Also have to say that the NFL protocols are definitely broken. I can't remember who tweeted it, but one respected NFL reporter got a text from a FO exec who said that the contact tracing is a joke. They have all of this stuff that looks great on paper but there's no consistency in how they're applying these protocols. They're stuck with money in their minds.
i mean with regards to the contact tracing, we know that multiple players were positive on gameday (at least 2 guys but probably more had already contracted it was incubating) - we know especially the 2 confirmed gameday positives were both running backs - the vast majority of the offensive huddle from Sunday is currently positive...
everyone in that huddle with Dobbins or Ingram at any point should probably have gone on the covid-list as close contacts on Monday
Exactly. You'd think the entire starting offense would have had to be close contacts because that was all unmasked interaction in the huddle. Time goes out the window in that case, or at least that's what they state.
i mean it has to be otherwise they wouldnt have stood down the entire broncos QB room who were only briefly unmasked together in a meeting but were social distanced the whole time
i mean i get it, they're outside which majorly mitigates transmission but they also share a locker room which is a crowded interior space with not great ventilation...
early on the first real indicator that there was an actual outbreak was because some of the first guys who all tested positive had lockers adjacent to each other and also spent time together in the huddle
the odds are that at least 1 of them will be out longer than the 10 days - I hope that's not the case obviously
Was reading up on Andrews's situation a bit more - it sounds like as long as his blood sugar is well-managed (which it normally is), then he's at no greater risk than anyone else
Calais's asthma is a much bigger risk and I would imagine could be causing him great discomfort albeit we dont know how severely he gets it
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I’m sure your best bet is their personal Twitter accounts. HIPPA laws are likely stopping teams from providing additional information.
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If it gets postponed again, wouldn't it wind up being done in the 18th week? It's not like either team playing Wed or Thursday would really be ready for next week's installments. Any more postponements affects who both teams are supposed to play next week. That's 4 teams on a wonky schedule. If I were the Steelers, I'd be lobbying to postpone it again. They can't want to play a team so infected...
Apparently the earliest any test results for today would come back is 4pm ET
so 2 hours time onwards will be a big indicator of whether the game tomorrow’s going to happen
so 2 hours time onwards will be a big indicator of whether the game tomorrow’s going to happen