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The Good, the Bad, the Ugly, and the Ravens Offense: Week 6 Edition

DeVito52 said:
The offense led by one legged Sam Bradford was terrible until he left.
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Well damn when he left they put up 20 points....better than Flacco did. Granted he wans sans Maclin but if one injury keeps wrecking our offense were in big trouble....no depth on offense. Plenty on defense. Although the amount of rushing yards weve allowed is an atonishing number. Its hard to say whos at fault on that one. Id like to say dean pees but....idk...
 
allblackraven said:
Their offense scored 2 TDs. I think that's much better than what we did.
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Well I meant there wasn't like some clear cut difference in the sense that they weren't slinging like 20 yard bombs every play or making massive plays. They just didn't make mistakes like the Ravens did.
 
that was a game I penciled in for 4-2 now to get to .666 ball we have to win three in a row, this one was like an arrow threw the heart. really thought this game was clearly in the W column. still can't believe it

thought the stealers would sure lose to kc and now they are in the catbird seat. but the worst is how bad other than colins and some D. Judon played well. huge game. keep him fire everybody else includin the front offices. they are the worst. so sick of harball its vomiting time.
 
Christian Schwarz said:
Too many IPAs, anger, frustration...leads to oversimplifications. I'll admit when I'm wrong statistically.

Our offense fucking blows am I right or wrong? We run the ball way too much, do in fact run quite a bit of shotgun draws on 2nd and long that are mostly unsuccessful...(go back and look at other games too). And ultimately thus leading to crucial 3rd and longs/ 3 & outs.
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That's fair. I can appreciate that.

I definitely do agree that our offense is struggling, but I can't at all co-sign the notion that we run the ball too often. We're averaging a putrid 5.4 yards per passing attempt, the second worst total in the league. We have the 5th lowest TDs and the 2nd most INTs. Our rushing attack is averaging a 4.3 YPC, which is just outside of the Top 10. We also have the 5th highest amount of carries of 20+ yards or more and the 3rd highest of 40+.

In our 3 losses, our running game amassed 328 yards on 63 carries. That's 109 yards per game on 21 attempts and a 5.2 YPC. Our passing game has amassed 69 completions on 117 attempts, for 479 yards, 2 TDs and 6 INTs. That's 23 completions on 39 attempts, 160 yards per game, a 4.1 YPA and a QB rating of 52.6. Average wise, the 39 attempts would put us at the 3rd highest amount of passes in the league. The 21 rushing attempts would be the 4th lowest in the league. There is seemingly a common denominator, and it doesn't appear to be an overabundance of carries. I'll look into the 2nd and 3rd and long scenarios if I have the time, but it'd be difficult to just take individual account for it in the meantime. The running game is arguably the one thing the offense has going for it. Forcing it down a notch is hard to argue for, especially given its effectiveness in comparison's to the offense's lack thereof. Not to mention that abandoning the run was the possibly the biggest complaint last season.
 
Truth said:
That's fair. I can appreciate that.

I definitely do agree that our offense is struggling, but I can't at all co-sign the notion that we run the ball too often. We're averaging a putrid 5.4 yards per passing attempt, the second worst total in the league. We have the 5th lowest TDs and the 2nd most INTs. Our rushing attack is averaging a 4.3 YPC, which is just outside of the Top 10. We also have the 5th highest amount of carries of 20+ yards or more and the 3rd highest of 40+.

In our 3 losses, our running game amassed 328 yards on 63 carries. That's 109 yards per game on 21 attempts and a 5.2 YPC. Our passing game has amassed 69 completions on 117 attempts, for 479 yards, 2 TDs and 6 INTs. That's 23 completions on 39 attempts, 160 yards per game, and a 4.1 YPA. Average wise, the 39 attempts would put us at the 3rd highest amount of passes in the league. The 21 rushing attempts would be the 4th lowest in the league. There is seemingly a common denominator, and it doesn't appear to be an overabundance of carries. I'll look into the 2nd and 3rd and long scenarios if I have the time, but it'd be difficult to just take individual account for it in the meantime. The running game is arguably the one thing the offense has going for it. Forcing it down a notch is hard to argue for, especially given its effectiveness in comparison's to the offense's lack thereof.
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I have to ask since you have the ability to review games- how do you feel about Flacco's play this season given his supporting cast?
 
29BmoreBird22 said:
I have to ask since you have the ability to review games- how do you feel about Flacco's play this season given his supporting cast?
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I'll be honest in that I've slacked some the last few weeks when it comes to doing full-fledged reviews. I've moved my workday from tomorrow to today in order to handle the taxes tomorrow, but I should have time to go over the tape then. I could give a mostly-informed account right now, but I feel like it'd be more accurate if I can sit down and re-review the first several games and then go through the ones I've only partially reviewed. Would it be alright if I answered this post sometime this week, hopefully in the early portion of it?
 
Christian Schwarz said:
Hall of famer Marshal Faulk is one of the few people in today's NFL who despises split back/ rotational RB situations, even though quite a lot of teams like us impliment the strategy.

The way he put it and the way I see it, there is a clear difference between having multiple backs put up 120+ yds and having one back do it. And first off, what has our 6th ranked split back rushing attack done for us??? Not much despite the fact that we are really pushing the run. Yet when Ray Rice was our workhorse putting up similar rushing stats we were winning games more frequently.

Faulk said it takes away from your clear cut lead back's chemistry and poise to sit there and constantly rotate in other RBs as opposed to have 1 back do it all. Yea it's nice to see Alex Collins bust those long runs and all, but then he just gets taken out...as if an NFL caliber athlete needs to take a rest. Then someone else rotates in takes a while to heat up and the hot guy gets cold.

And it just further attests to our lack of talent, good RBs can do it all- 3 things- run, catch, and protect. The fact that we need multiple guys to do that is alittle off.
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Yeah, we’ve been devoid of true talent at RB since 2012. The hope was that Dixon would be that guy, but that’s not looking too promising. The common thought is that a RB can be had pretty easily, but you wouldn’t know it by the guys we put out there.
 
Tank said:
Yeah, we’ve been devoid of true talent at RB since 2012. The hope was that Dixon would be that guy, but that’s not looking too promising. The common thought is that a RB can be had pretty easily, but you wouldn’t know it by the guys we put out there.
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Dixon I’d he stays healthy and out of trouble could be an awesome back.
 
29BmoreBird22 said:
Well I meant there wasn't like some clear cut difference in the sense that they weren't slinging like 20 yard bombs every play or making massive plays. They just didn't make mistakes like the Ravens did.
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That is correct but bear in mind, their starting QB played on one leg and was benched when they were behind. Backup QB also had to do without Diggs, who got injured, too. Not to mention they did not have their rookie starting RB. And Keenum prevailed.
 
allblackraven said:
That is correct but bear in mind, their starting QB played on one leg and was benched when they were behind. Backup QB also had to do without Diggs, who got injured, too. Not to mention they did not have their rookie starting RB. And Keenum prevailed.
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I think we would have seen a very similar situation for the Ravens if the ball weren't turned over because the running game was really putting the offense in a position to score.

Also, I think Diggs returned to the game.
 
Truth said:
I'll be honest in that I've slacked some the last few weeks when it comes to doing full-fledged reviews. I've moved my workday from tomorrow to today in order to handle the taxes tomorrow, but I should have time to go over the tape then. I could give a mostly-informed account right now, but I feel like it'd be more accurate if I can sit down and re-review the first several games and then go through the ones I've only partially reviewed. Would it be alright if I answered this post sometime this week, hopefully in the early portion of it?
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Take as much time as you need.

I'm just really curious about what the issues are with this offense. Is it really that there's no talent and the offensive play calling is really that bad or are we seeing the twilight of Joe's career? Or a healthy mix?
 
29BmoreBird22 said:
I think we would have seen a very similar situation for the Ravens if the ball weren't turned over because the running game was really putting the offense in a position to score.
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With everything good that happened to the offense, we took two steps backwards.
 
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