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The 2021 Offseason Thread

JO_75 said:
Seeing how teams are placing people on COVID reserve list, just saw Tannehill got placed on it by the Titans. You guys think it is going to be way worse this season compared to last season? I know there are teams who have a bunch of their players fully vaccinated but those players who aren't vaccinated and may miss a game or two.
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I don't see how it can be "worse". Pretty much every team has at least half of their players vaccinated, and we really won't know the ratio until final cuts. So at some point, there's only a finite number of players who can even enter the protocol.

I don't see paths where the NFL is really forced to reschedule games this year. Even if the team has like a 60-70% vaccination rate, and all unvaccinated players end up on the COVID list at the same time, they'd still likely have enough players on the PS to fill a roster for gameday.
 
purplepittabread88 said:
I honestly wouldn't hate if Boykin made the roster. he made some decent tds towards the end of last season and has to be our only wr over 6'1 ish right? I know hes kinda ass but I wouldn't mind his blocking and I doubt many of these wrs will make a single catch this year - at least we know we can get 200 and 3 off him ?
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what's the point of being 6'1ish if you're useless at being 6'1...
 
Simba said:
And with that tweet above, the good news remains that while we’re missing a lot of guys from practice right now, most of them would be playing on Sunday if there was a meaningful game. No harm in letting guys take their time to get back so we don’t have another potential Bateman situation.
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e.g. hollywood's been running sprints etc. on a side field since before preseason week 1 - he's fine at this point
 
I wonder what we can even get for Wade and Verity. I really like Wade.
 
rossihunter2 said:


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I guess I sit there and say to myself... OK, what has changed since you drafted him? You had a logjam before you drafted him, everybody is healthy, and now you're just now realizing that you have like 5-6 above average Corners ahead of draft picks and can't keep them all?

Like I get he probably hasn't had a good camp, but if you're taking a 5th round DB and then looking to trade him three months later because he's not good enough to beat out guys you already knew he wasn't going to beat out, then why did you draft him to begin with?

Like with a great camp, he's your 6th Corner, and that's assuming that Stephens is treated purely as a Safety. I understand that you can never have enough Corners, but Iman Marshall was drafted in 2019, and you've got other guys from your PS and guys you had in camp last year, that are guys you'd like to see develop.

Trading away Verity as an UDFA, or even trading away somebody like Boykin, who's had no shortage of opportunities to emerge and has simply fallen down the depth chart, makes perfect sense. This one doesn't to me.
 
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rmcjacket23 said:
I guess I sit there and say to myself... OK, what has changed since you drafted him? You had a logjam before you drafted him, everybody is healthy, and now you're just now realizing that you have like 5-6 above average Corners ahead of draft picks and can't keep them all?

Like I get he probably hasn't had a good camp, but if you're taking a 5th round DB and then looking to trade him three months later because he's not good enough to beat out guys you already knew he wasn't going to beat out, then why did you draft him to begin with?

Like with a great camp, he's your 6th Corner, and that's assuming that Stephens is treated purely as a Safety. I understand that you can never have enough Corners, but Iman Marshall was drafted in 2019, and you've got other guys from your PS and guys you had in camp last year, that are guys you'd like to see develop.
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Maybe they can look at wade and believes he wont amount to nothing…. Or maybe they didnt think tavon and averret would come back where they left off
 
rmcjacket23 said:
I guess I sit there and say to myself... OK, what has changed since you drafted him? You had a logjam before you drafted him, everybody is healthy, and now you're just now realizing that you have like 5-6 above average Corners ahead of draft picks and can't keep them all?

Like I get he probably hasn't had a good camp, but if you're taking a 5th round DB and then looking to trade him three months later because he's not good enough to beat out guys you already knew he wasn't going to beat out, then why did you draft him to begin with?

Like with a great camp, he's your 6th Corner, and that's assuming that Stephens is treated purely as a Safety. I understand that you can never have enough Corners, but Iman Marshall was drafted in 2019, and you've got other guys from your PS and guys you had in camp last year, that are guys you'd like to see develop.
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i dont think it's that complex - they picked a guy with major upside coming off a down year who might not have an nfl position because of some of his physical limitations - they clearly have seen enough to indicate to them that he'll never become something

it probably tells us that they like washington, westry and warrior more than wade
 
rossihunter2 said:
i dont think it's that complex - they picked a guy with major upside coming off a down year who might not have an nfl position because of some of his physical limitations - they clearly have seen enough to indicate to them that he'll never become something

it probably tells us that they like washington, westry and warrior more than wade
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I have no doubt they like others more. I just think you're probably doing a huge disservice to your scouting department to use a 5th rounder on a guy and then dump him after two months of practices. It's one thing to whiff on a guy, but it's another to just move on that quickly.

There's guys we've drafted who are always injured and never get on the field who have gotten much longer leashes than Wade.
 
Trading Wade would be wild. It’d be great to recoup some value because it seems clear he’s down the pecking order.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
LOL, I mean, OK, I'm not sure who they're able to draw that conclusions from like two months of practices though, but OK.
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i mean in two months you can tell if a guy has a work ethic or not.. he already ass so mix that in with no work ethic and he likely wont ever get better
 
rossihunter2 said:
why not? we dismiss all sorts of guys out of hand with less time
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Plus, if I take Zrebiec's reasoning literally, it doesn't even appear to be that they don't think he is or can't be a good player. He's just not good enough to make this team at his position.

If that's true, then I ask why he's drafted again. If you're trying to trade the guy because you think he sucks, then so be it. Chances are he won't get traded and he'll just get cut.
 
Who’s to say the ravens initiated these talks though? It’s entirely possible that some team wanted him and his lack of playing time is a result of us being in trade talks already.
 
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rmcjacket23 said:
Plus, if I take Zrebiec's reasoning literally, it doesn't even appear to be that they don't think he is or can't be a good player. He's just not good enough to make this team at his position.

If that's true, then I ask why he's drafted again. If you're trying to trade the guy because you think he sucks, then so be it. Chances are he won't get traded and he'll just get cut.
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Shit we might can put him in a package deal with verity
 
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