Dom McRaven
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Young legend in the making. You LOVE to see it.
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The 2021 Offseason Thread
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Young legend in the making. You LOVE to see it.
JAAM
Hall of Famer
Holy sh!t lol
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
First of all, he had to have talked some shit, no other way that happens lmao.
second, I know it’s just a coach with a pad, but he didn’t lose speed, momentum, didn’t change trajectory in the slightest, that entire grown man was like someone threw a paper ball and it just bounced off of him
LSURavenFan
Veteran
Crowded WR room for the Ravens
Hollywood
Watkins
Bateman
Boykin
Duvernay
Wallace
Proche
Would seem to me that Proche is the player that is most in danger of losing his job. Sure-handed punt returner, if he's on the team it's as a special teamer.
Boykin is a good blocker, but they don't seem to like the idea of him playing TE. If he wasn't such a good blocker, I think he would be fighting for a job.
Hollywood
Watkins
Bateman
Boykin
Duvernay
Wallace
Proche
Would seem to me that Proche is the player that is most in danger of losing his job. Sure-handed punt returner, if he's on the team it's as a special teamer.
Boykin is a good blocker, but they don't seem to like the idea of him playing TE. If he wasn't such a good blocker, I think he would be fighting for a job.
i still think he's fighting for a job - being a good downfield blocker isn't enough to get you on the field unless the rest of the roster's a complete liability - sammy watkins is a good downfield blocker - signing sammy makes boykin pretty redundant
and now that we've drafted bateman and wallace too (wallace is also a good blocker) - i dont see why boykin makes it - he'd have to earn his way onto the special teams unit too - and he he offers something as a gunner but idk that he's more than a rotational option there
proche's going to have to find more than just a punt return job though, because duvernay snatched that from him last year so if he wants to contribute and not ride the inactives list every week he'll have to factor into the rest of the special teams unit
I think Boykin is in the most danger. It’s good that he blocks downfield but you aren’t going to put him on the field just to do that anymore. We’ve revamped that unit to where we should be a lot more 50/50. Running will still be the identity but you can’t mix looks when you put Boykin on the field and know he’s no threat as a pass catcher.
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
Exactly. Well said. Here's my somewhat bold prediction. EDC is not afraid to cut the cord. Neither Boykin nor Ferguson make this team this year.
Not gonna lie... i like proche more than dunvervay..
Duv is the returner and Boykin is the better blocker which makes them both have value whereas proche kinda is the odd man out. After all they are competing for WR4 so if all you are is a worse version of what will be on the field then why do they need you active on gameday?
if we sign Houston then i think Ferg's gone
boykin's got a chance to win a spot on the roster - but it would be as the 6th receiver and special teamer... he'll be fighting proche for that spot
as a receiver, i do too, but duvernay's the returner and an explosive gadget athlete
cdp
Ravens Ring of Honor
same here. I think Duvernay could make a similar transition like Ty Montgomery.
I'd have
Hollywood
Sammy
Bateman
Proche
Wallace
Boykin
and Duvernay as sort of a weapon/WR/RB
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
I also believe that. What doesn't make sense to me is, in a year where the receivers were actually trash, why didn't proche get his chance to stink up the joint? Or better yet.... maybe flash. I don't get it.
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
I feel like it's interesting there hasn't been more buzz about the receiver room. 2 things here, something I just thought of is that Lamar has literally never in college or the pros ever played with an elite group of receivers. This is the first time that guy will have an absolute unit of skill players to help him out. Watch out NFL.
Speaking of the NFL look at our roster vs the Chiefs NOW.
Lamar, Mahomes
Dobbins, CEH
Hollywood, Tyreek
Andrews, Kelce
Watkins, Cornell Powell???
Rashod Bateman, Demarcus Robinson???
Tylan Wallace, Mecole Hardman???
Devin Duvernay, Pringle
What will be somewhat comparable OLines.
Obviously the head to heads stop making sense after Andrews, but the point im making is our group looks stronger to me than there's. And if you disagree than you'd be crazy to say its a runaway in their favor. Its a bare minimum close.
And now before people go on the whole bUt mAhOmEs > lAmAr, see point 1. Lamar has actually never in his life been surrounded with talent. Look what he did with a semi achieving Willie Snead and Seth fucking Roberts during the MVP campaign.
Could be drinking the coolaid but I think you're gonna see that Lamar has the better 2021 season.
Speaking of the NFL look at our roster vs the Chiefs NOW.
Lamar, Mahomes
Dobbins, CEH
Hollywood, Tyreek
Andrews, Kelce
Watkins, Cornell Powell???
Rashod Bateman, Demarcus Robinson???
Tylan Wallace, Mecole Hardman???
Devin Duvernay, Pringle
What will be somewhat comparable OLines.
Obviously the head to heads stop making sense after Andrews, but the point im making is our group looks stronger to me than there's. And if you disagree than you'd be crazy to say its a runaway in their favor. Its a bare minimum close.
And now before people go on the whole bUt mAhOmEs > lAmAr, see point 1. Lamar has actually never in his life been surrounded with talent. Look what he did with a semi achieving Willie Snead and Seth fucking Roberts during the MVP campaign.
Could be drinking the coolaid but I think you're gonna see that Lamar has the better 2021 season.
QuothTheRaven
Veteran
Would love that but the head to head you're missing is Andy Reid >> Greg Roman.
I mean I would assume the cuts are largely left up to the coach versus the GM.
idk tbh - the one game where he had a couple of snaps i thought he did ok - his 1 reception was a nice route
the only thought i have is that he was the target on a lamar reception (but it looked like lamar's fault missing the LB rather than proche so idk)
i really wanted him to get some snaps just to see if he couldnt add some value to a stale and utterly uninspiring receiving corps
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
While certainly true, I'm spearheading the I THINK (keyword think) I have been very wrong about Roman. Something I have taken for granted is that just like Lamar has never had premier skill positions around him, well Roman hasn't really either.
We got toasted in the playoff game against the titans and knew we needed to improve the passing game. That ended up only being the addition of Duvernay and Proche. Well guess what happened vs Buffalo, got hit in the trenches again and the WR corps were not able to get open. So the stacked box killed us again.
Well guess what, we're gonna round out RT, and now we have at bare minimum 3 guys who can beat man. Let's see what Roman can do when he has the players talented enough to beat the man accross from them.
Last note, I read from Romans answers in a presser a few days ago that he was implicitly saying our guys today are gonna be better at beating the stacked box than our guys of years past. And that was before adding Tylan. I have a lot of faith. Lamar and the guys are already working hard.
to be fair to the chiefs - they've invested a ton in their OL at this point this offseason
Orlando - Thuney - Humphrey/Blythe - Duvernay-Tardiff/Long/Smith - Niang/Remmers
maybe they don't have 5 elite players but they've got a ton of depth at all the spots where they don't have entrenched starters...