yep i agree id rather matt elam (drugs charges and all) than pryor - because at least elam wouldnt take up a roster spot because hed be on the suspension list
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Calvin Pryor
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yep i agree id rather matt elam (drugs charges and all) than pryor - because at least elam wouldnt take up a roster spot because hed be on the suspension list
Purple&Black#20
Practice Squad
That's why you both make no since. We couldn't of traded Matt Elam sorry ass away if we wanted to because no one wanted him. With Calvin being traded to another team they had to see some potential dummies!! That's the stupidest shit ever to say you would rather Elam.
they traded him because they saw potential - then they cut him because he was garbage
and now you are saying that you trust those teams' evaluations... after accusing us of the same thing...
Yes, I read that as well. Supposedly a much bigger adjustment than anyone realized due to the change in scheme. He’s been very good against the run.
In that respect, however, it should be noted that he was just released by the Jaguars, whom not only have a top-tier defense, but also have three recently-signed starting DBs who have performed very well in A.J. Bouye, Tashaun Gipson and Barry Church; so they've shown that they're capable of singing DBs that make good on their talents. Now I personally don't see a player's release or trade to always be a paralleled indication of their actual value, and perhaps Pryor is able to have some success moving forward. But if we're mentioning his past destinations and praising or denouncing the decisions based on the regimes, it should only be fair that we include the most current example as well.
Oldfaithful
Hall of Famer
A better player
K-Dog
MVP
I think the mall closes at 9:30 so you will have to wait until then.
Xmas store hours are longer in December. You may be able find him checking customers out at the register.
TheCity5
MVP
Tony Jefferson is starting to take way too much heat. I understand just as much as anyone here that he hasn't been the super-star safety that we hoped for, Ala Kam Chancellor but he's been pretty good and even solid. Is he perfect? No, but going back to the film I think I myself judged him a little too harsh. Sometimes you need to look at the alignments and where the coverage is supposed to be at.
Early on in the season, he was missing tackles, coverage responsibilities and had a bit of issues against the run, but he's made big improvements now. I think in terms of the run game, he's not the biggest liability, I have to look at the play of the 2nd and 3rd level players around him who have given up big runs and have been a bigger liability.
And FWIW, Calvin Pryor honestly would be a severe downgrade.
Early on in the season, he was missing tackles, coverage responsibilities and had a bit of issues against the run, but he's made big improvements now. I think in terms of the run game, he's not the biggest liability, I have to look at the play of the 2nd and 3rd level players around him who have given up big runs and have been a bigger liability.
And FWIW, Calvin Pryor honestly would be a severe downgrade.
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
I'm prepared to wait. Elam+pair of sneakers > Pryor
You sure about that
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
Yep. Difference is exactly one pair of sneakers.
Just give me a pbj sandwhich and that would be better them all of them.
Sledge Hammer
Pro Bowler
How much did we pay Jefferson??
TheCity5
MVP
He's really not as bad as people are making him out to be...
he is not as good as people on here and the media made him out to be when we got him neither. Wish we wouldve gotten a versatile S.
To be fair, he was outstanding on tape last season. Part of the issue has innately been in his usage. It has been categorically versatile, more than you'd prefer at times even. Of his 944 snaps, he's played 466 at FS alone. 107 have come at slot corner, when he was directly lined up against a WR or slot TE, and over a dozen at either LCB or RCB. That's 588, which is 62.3% of his overall usage. You look at a player like Kam Chancellor, and he's statistically played the majority of his snaps at either LB, on the edge or at SS this season. So there has been a tough learning curve for Jefferson. It doesn't completely write off his early season struggles, but it's worth noting.
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Jefferson had a fair share of assignment lapses earlier in the year, but it seems he's been asked to play a lot more close-intermediate snaps and he has done very well there recently, leveon bell folded his ass up multiple times but bell is a total freak and Jefferson did enough for the most part to get him down. Aside from his tackling attempts vs Bell he's had a pretty solid 2nd half.
I think he's been very disappointing considering the deal he got, but I think he's gonna be a big part of our future and show why we gave him that deal
Sooky
Pro Bowler
I think his role has changed a lot here and has been asked to do more in the box and without that #2 ILB our defense is getting burned. I miss Zach Orr I understand people think most his tackles were because of CJ which is true, but nobody can deny he is definitely better than Peanut and Correa. I feel like those intermediate routes were shut down last season and this season that is where we are getting burned consistently. CJ has always had a harder time in coverage and fixed a lot of that up last year and was doing so early on but with his injury he definitely has not been hitting players as hard or getting places as fast.
TheCity5
MVP
Don't think he was that bad either. Has it been a disappointing signing? Sure, considering his contract but he was a stud in Arizona and deserved the pay-day. I don't think he's as bad as some make him out to be and I don't think the run success teams have had falls on his shoulders more then it does on Weddle.