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BloodRaven said:
He also gets paid more than every corner in the league except for Jalen Ramsey, it's expected that he can do all those things and not get torched by a rookie.
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Marlon is good. Not great imo but is a good cb. Does everything at a good level and thats what make him valuable.. whenever theres a ball thrown his way thats in air for atleast 15 yards, i expect the wr catch it cause his balls skills suck.. i call him trash alot but in reality he a good cb.. not ramsey nor jaire type cvg skills but he does cover pretty good
 
rossihunter2 said:
right but they are illegal so it's not an equal access so that's a useless hypothetical because if you allow PEDs then you endorse another layer of competition whereby you then have another area for the creation of competitive advantage to create the best PEDs for your athletes etc.

and then you have competitive advantages completely based around access to those PEDs and access to treatment and healthcare and all those things has never been equal in any sport across all athletes in a discipline

thus the easiest way to equalise that playing field is to have anti-doping rules with strict and specific guidelines on what is and what isnt legal which leaves no grey areas

the NFL is much more lenient vs other athletic federations and governing bodies - in many cases PEDs mean you have to forfeit medals or championships won (even in team sports) and end in life-time or at least multi-year suspensions (not multi-week like the NFL)
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I mean... what is illegal? Certain types of steroids and HGH are, but others are readily available as OTC medications that are sold in nutrition stores and pharmacies nationwide, and some are available via prescription for a variety of ailments. Various HGH products and even Steroids are used for therapy from serious injuries, which would kind of be an important thing for pro athletes.

Plus, the whole "we've turned a blind eye to marijuana usage" thing, or effectively made it so easy to use that there's no real punishment for it, kind of kills the moral stance of "because its illegal" argument. Marijuana is mostly illegal in this country... still.

And that's before we go down the rabbit hole of NFL doctors pushing pain medications containing highly addictive properties on nearly all of its players, but somehow HGH is big and scary. Riiiight.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
I mean... what is illegal? Certain types of steroids and HGH are, but others are readily available as OTC medications that are sold in nutrition stores and pharmacies nationwide, and some are available via prescription for a variety of ailments. Various HGH products and even Steroids are used for therapy from serious injuries, which would kind of be an important thing for pro athletes.

Plus, the whole "we've turned a blind eye to marijuana usage" thing, or effectively made it so easy to use that there's no real punishment for it, kind of kills the moral stance of "because its illegal" argument. Marijuana is mostly illegal in this country... still.

And that's before we go down the rabbit hole of NFL doctors pushing pain medications containing highly addictive properties on nearly all of its players, but somehow HGH is big and scary. Riiiight.
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illegal in competition

I’m never going to pretend that the law is moral or fair lol - when i say illegal I mean outlawed by WADA or its affiliated (or non-affiliated) governing bodies or other organisations
 
rossihunter2 said:
i mean i just looked and the completion percentage when he's been targeted is the lowest it's been since 2018... 22nd in the league

the 2 real differences i can see that would give you the impression that he's not playing well come down to a couple of things is my guess:
  1. he's being targeted at a higher rate than in any previous season - partly that's because he's shadowing the number 1 weapon on critical downs this year when he didnt always have to in previous years
  2. he had that one awful game where jamarr chase and cj uzomah cooked him multiple times for multiple big plays - something like 2/5 of the yardage he's given up this year came in that 1 game - and it means his yards/completion is the highest of his career
  3. he's not created any turnovers

he's been in tougher assignments than basically any corner in the league because he's consistently matched up against the opposition's top weapon and more often than any other corner in the league he's left 1v1 in man on an island and he plays the slot more than the majority of the best corners in the league
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he's also playing mostly on the outside this yr vs in the slot last year.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
I mean... what is illegal? Certain types of steroids and HGH are, but others are readily available as OTC medications that are sold in nutrition stores and pharmacies nationwide, and some are available via prescription for a variety of ailments. Various HGH products and even Steroids are used for therapy from serious injuries, which would kind of be an important thing for pro athletes.

Plus, the whole "we've turned a blind eye to marijuana usage" thing, or effectively made it so easy to use that there's no real punishment for it, kind of kills the moral stance of "because its illegal" argument. Marijuana is mostly illegal in this country... still.

And that's before we go down the rabbit hole of NFL doctors pushing pain medications containing highly addictive properties on nearly all of its players, but somehow HGH is big and scary. Riiiight.
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I would be all for allowing PEDs in sports, the only problem being where do your draw the line? Like I’d fucking hate to see Aaron Donald shermed out of his mind and just deadlifting all pro guards, Derrick Henry bumping some meth during a tv timeout before a 4th and 1. It’d be fucking insane and soon everyone would have to be abusing life ruining and health ruining drugs just to compete
 
RavensMania said:
he's also playing mostly on the outside this yr vs in the slot last year.
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he's spending a lot of early downs outside - he's also flexing into mirror whoever the biggest threat is on money downs which against quite a few teams has been into the slot vs either a quick slot or a tight end weapon (e.g. Kelce, Gesicki, Hockenson, Waller, Renfrow)
 
rossihunter2 said:
he's spending a lot of early downs outside - he's also flexing into mirror whoever the biggest threat is on money downs which against quite a few teams has been into the slot vs either a quick slot or a tight end weapon (e.g. Kelce, Gesicki, Hockenson, Waller, Renfrow)
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what is your thought on Tavon Young. Do we keep him or not next season.
 
Sounds like Hunt and Conklin will be coming back just in time to play us.


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RavensMania said:
what is your thought on Tavon Young. Do we keep him or not next season.
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Id think he’ll be cut and we’ll keep the option open for him to return. Let him test the market and see what’s out there. It’s almost assuredly at a reduced rate even though he’s played well, but he’s kind of in the 1 year deal territory for the rest of his career at this point I’d think.
 
It’s going to be run heavy on Cleveland’s side. They have like no WR’s playing lol
 
Our CBs at practice today were Marlon Humphrey, Ar'Darius Washington, Kevin Toliver, Kevon Seymour, and Mazzi Wilkins
 
Simba said:
Our CBs at practice today were Marlon Humphrey, Ar'Darius Washington, Kevin Toliver, Kevon Seymour, and Mazzi Wilkins
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ooft - we'd better hope that at least one of jimmy, averett, tavon or westry is able to go this sunday... preferably 2 or more but we can probably just about manage with 1 and fill in with seymour/toliver if we have to...

was a good sign for this week that averett nearly played last week but didnt quite feel good enough to go on saturday

these guys dont need practice so as long as they're definitely ready to go then it doesnt matter if they miss all week's practices
 
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