JoeyFlex5
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The mistake was thinking he’d be ready LAST year. Week 1 is a whole year later. He suffered his injury mid season 2020 and the mistake was trying to rush back and not allowing a full recovery
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The 2022 Offseason Thread
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ravenslord
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Joey I think he is done. Don't be surprised if he retires. It was a terribly devastating injury.
like i get skepticism about ronnie
but i really dont understand this widespread assumption that he's done - there's been no indication from the team or the organisation or any "sources" that he's done - just an understanding that we can't be left in the same position as last year with no contingency plan or options
we shouldnt expect to get pigeon-holed picking a position in R1 especially at OT where it's likely the top 3 are coming off the board in the top 10
ravenslord
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He’s done or will be a shell of his former self . A tackle is imperative. I will be right on this one sadly
UPennChem
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You might be right. However you just keep saying it. What evidence is there for it? Are you just basing it off of the fact that he was supposed to be back but then required an extra surgery?
If so, yeah that totally sucked and from a depth perspective we were unprepared. But what does any of that have to do with the rehab from the latest corrective surgery? If there were reports that he wasn't doing well that would be one thing, but this seems like over fitting to your training data of 1 point.
rmcjacket23
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Well a couple things I'll say here:
1. FA comes before the draft. I fully expect at least one Olineman to be added there. Could easily be a starting Center or a RT. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Don't think for one second the Ravens are going to go into the draft thinking they need two or even three starters on the Oline. I think they'll use the draft for A starter and a depth player.
2. I personally don't see LG as a need. Between Powers, Phillips and Cleveland, one of those guys is going to have to step up and fill that void. I don't think its reasonable to think we're going to land three new starters on the Oline in one offseason. Could even see Mekari enter that mix, or maybe, a drafted Tackle who doesn't win that starting job out of camp.
3. This assumes Bozeman isn't re-signed. I doubt he will be, but I think its possible he could still return.
4. The jury is still out on Stanley. It's too early to tell if he's done or not. We'll have backup plans available, but I highly doubt that involves like a high pick on a strictly LT. If we use a high draft pick or a FA signing on a Tackle, I'd expect it to be somebody who can play both spots, not just one.
rmcjacket23
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Any website that has the Ravens emphasizing making a big move to obtain another WR should be ignored. Even some of the clown analysts on ESPN literally think the Ravens biggest need in the offseason is a "true #1 WR". It's pretty clear their sampling of data is pretty limited.
If some of these guys were running NFL franchises, they'd get fired within weeks.
ravenslord
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ravenslord
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I have only heard the rumors out there that Ronnie suffered nerve damage. That has certainly been floated out there . I also heard he has considered retirement.
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rmcjacket23
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Right but its important to produce sources for these types of things. There's tons of bogus conjecture and social media posts that have no info whatsoever who say these things. Its entirely possible that both of those things aren't real.
The retirement aspect really makes no sense whatsoever, because if Ronnie isn't healthy enough to play, he can simply not play and get paid, which is what 100% of people would choose to do. He's got a fully guaranteed $9.5M salary for 2022 that I would be shocked to see him walk away from, and he'll get another $6.75M guaranteed for 2023 in about 20 days time, which I can assure you the Ravens a) know about and b) would be interested in getting out of paying if they thought he couldn't make it back.
If he never makes it back, it won't surprise me either. I just don't think you'll find a source on this planet, including Stanley himself, who knows this as of March 1st, 2022.
That's why when people suggest these things and come back later and say "see, I told you so", I usually mock them for being wrong. They didn't get anything right... they just guessed right. They didn't have enough info to make the claims they're making in the moment, so they threw something at a board and hoped it sticked.
BloodRaven
Pro Bowler
Whenever someone on twitter mentions JaWuan James as the potential answer at RT I just want to slap the fuck out of them
I’m prepared to parry and counter but am I wrong to hold out hope he can return to form for the year?
BloodRaven
Pro Bowler
What is that hope based on? His last real season was 2018.
Unlikely sure but if his Achilles has healed enough to begin practicing last season, I don’t see why some can’t remain optimistic. EDC has seen enough to remain invested
So you would mock him for guessing right? That literally makes no sense. Its not like he said patrick queen or odefe will retire, he said stanley. A guy who was rushed back from an injury that caused nerve damaged. Maybe he could feel like the org isnt concerned about his health. He could also just not play like you said and collect that money then just retire next year.
rmcjacket23
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Yes. What skills or knowledge were used to come up with that guess? It's like playing bingo and wanting to be given credit for predicting a win. You did nothing.
I don't know that Stanley was rushed back from injury or that he has nerve damage. You don't have that information either. You are purely guessing at that information. The only information you have is that a medical team of doctors cleared Stanley to play, he thought he could play, he played briefly, and then it became clear he wasn't fully healed and needed further medical attention. That's all we have.
If the org wasn't concerned about his health, they would have told him to shut up and play. But they didn't. He played one game, went to the bench, and never came back. That doesn't look like an organization being concerned about a players health.
I'm not giving people credit for making predictions with no information or basis to support it. If that's good enough for you, then Deebo be Deebo.
Me personally, i legit dnt even know what stanley injury is tbh. Just read on here that he possibly got nerve damge and someone here mentioned that decosta owned up to them trying to rush stanley back..anyway,you dnt give people credit anyway lol. Lose lose situation with your ass. aint no winning with. If he got a feeling stanley will retire or not return to how he once was, so be it. Mock him if he returns back to all pro level, not if he actually retires.
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just to clarify something important for a second: they never "owned up to them trying to rush stanley back" - all EDC *admitted* to was that they should have had a better contingency plan for if he wasnt going to be ready and expected he would be
also fyi no indication he does have nerve damage (and even if he does that's more difficult to resolve but also not a death sentence to his recovery either)
rmcjacket23
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Credit is like respect... its earned. Comes through hard work, knowledge, etc. It ain't a charity case.
He can have whatever feelings or opinions he wants. He just doesn't get credit or accolades for being right on one that he conjured out of thin air and with no basis or knowledge coming from it. That wasn't earned.
All of the Stanley "reports" have come from no one credible all along so hard to believe any of it. Of course there's concern that this may impact his career, whether that be his play on the field or whether or not he can actually get back on the field at all. The main point is that no one knows and we shouldn't let baseless speculation from random Twitter dudes sway us.