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Really no reason why it can't work. Depends on matchups. That's all the playoffs is.
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The 2022 Offseason Thread
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rmcjacket23
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I'd say pretty much no chance of that. WR's play a lot of ST. You're not going to go into the season looking like that.
Still carry 5-6 WRs like normal.
If you're including Ricard as a RB, then yes, 4. If not, I would be shocked to see us carry 5 RBs. If Edwards and Dobbins are healthy enough to practice, play, and rotate, they're not carrying 4 RBs.
4 TEs is a maybe, though no way they're all active on gameday.
UPennChem
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Yeah this is thing. I think that spot opens from RB. If the 2 starters are ready to go, then you only need 3. If one or both aren't and they're on the pup then you have the spot anyway. So you should easily be able to add another WR.
Its more factors to playoff success than matchups though.. this same offense have let us down in the playoffs every year that we went.
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If they're factoring ST into their 53 man roster construction, I could see them keep Justice Hill as a 5th RB over a 5th WR. He's been a solid ST player who has gotten a lot of reps and is less likely to get to the practice squad than whoever the 5th best WR on the roster is.
was he with us in the preseason? i thought he joined the team during the year but i could be wrong
foster merill and adrian ealy were the 2 "unknown" guys who people were talking themselves into during the preseason at tackle iirc
i just snorted my beer out my nose lol
JAAM
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the closer we get to the season without adding someone, the more likely it is to happen
the first checkpoint to get past before we really start considering it though is the 26th of July when the vets come into camp and get ready to do the conditioning test
i think what makes it more likely is if some of those big name WRs are still unextended and if someone like Odell is unsigned going into the year - if those things all happen then it's possible we enter the season with what we've got, knowing that we can always make a move later in the year either by trade or by signing OBJ
there certainly doesnt have to be urgency to make a move right now
also our main personnel in all 3 of those games was 11 personnel... we were 3 wide more than any other personnel group in those 3 games
as you say it's notable that our OL got beaten up in all 3 of those games - that's the main commonality in those 3 teams falling apart - and notable that the one you describe as a super-productive loss had the best OL group of the 3 games listed (but also was missing the C that had helped make the offence so successful the first 3/4 of the season)... bozeman and mekari got beaten up at LG and C in that Titans game
i really think we're gonna at least start the season with 4
JK and Gus i think will be ready to go or close enough that we don't want to i/r them and prevent them from practicing
Badie's basically a lock at this point if he can play on special teams
and if JK and Gus aren't quite ready but are healthy enough to be on the roster then I think Davis is gonna make the roster and play snaps and if they are ready then I think Justice Hill may well make the team still with his special teams prowess
also if we're just talking special teams then no obvious reason why it can't be DBs (that we have loads of) instead of WRs - especially as Tylan Wallace is basically locked in as one of our 2 main gunners already anyway based on last year's play
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Right but every year is different. The reasons we lost were different in pretty much every game. What happened in the past is a world-class bad predictor for what's going to happen in the future.
Nobody really thinks Cincinnati was the best team in the AFC last year. They played well at the right time and matched up well with all the teams they played in the playoffs. Hence, they went to the SB.
So in all examples, stuff just went bad for us? I mean it worked well in regular season yet come playoff time it doesnt work in all 3 games? That titans game was literally garbage yards by the way. Unless our defense plays lights out, im expecting the same results as previous years
JoeyFlex5
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I can’t remember at all and it definitely wasn’t ealy or Merrill, it was either Sharpe or jones-smith and one of them looked really good in preseason, albeit against a bunch of future accountants and insurance salesmen, but he looked good
We legit run the same offensive as we did in the past lol so idk how thats a bad predictor for the future.. all playoff games, our offense failed. Greg roman offense has been the same way before he got here and nothing has yet to changed..bengals have a well rounded team and most talented offense in afc and probably the whole nfl
JoeyFlex5
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Titans game wasn’t garbage yards, we had racked up a shit ton of yards well before the game was out of reach, we relied on a lot of fourth down conversions and then failed at them against the titans, and we also had a lot of dropped passes that would’ve extended drives, and then of course Lamar went nuts with turnovers.
None of that was scheme. 500 yards means nothing when you don’t get in the endzone, and that doesn’t automatically constitute garbage yards either, just drives that we failed to finish and in that game it was all execution
rmcjacket23
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Well the 2018 offense look a TON different than 2019, and 2019 looked a lot different than 2020. Especially in terms of what we did in the playoffs.
There's only one thing that universally failed the same way in the last three postseason losses, and that was the Oline not holding up in pass protection. They were bad in '18, bad in '19, bad in '20.
There's very few other similarities among those three playoff losses in terms of what we did offensively. Very different from each other.
UPennChem
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First titans game we didn't score touchdowns and we didn't convert 4th downs. Probably largely on the players not GRo.
Second titans game, that game was awful to watch. Probably bad on players and GRo. No excuse for this one. They just were bad.
Bill's game, the weather made both teams awful.
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Basically, yes.
I mean 2018 is kind of a throw away obviously, because we basically didn't pass at all and everybody knew it. We played a team we'd already played who realized we couldn't pass, and they beat us.
2019 was basically just dropped passes, bad pass protection, and sloppy turnovers. Did you actually watch that game? I've yet to see anybody actually think that game was a "Roman" problem. Roman doesn't drop passes, make errant throws, or miss blocking assignments badly.
2020 I can sort of get behind the idea of a bad gameplan, except I really can't fault them for doing anything differently than what I would have done.
So yes, you can lose three playoff games in three consecutive years and obviously not have it be the same problem. We were good in 2018, 2019 and 2020, but we were never like unbeatable. It's not like every single week were just bulldozing people at will. Especially not in 2020.