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Lamar Jackson

gtalk12 said:
I am pretty confident that those early successes where more attributed to our running game and defense

In his first 7 playoff games Flacco threw 4 TDS to 7 Ints
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No doubt early on. We’ve tried to give Lamar a similar situation, just hasn’t worked out through the draft like we hoped.
 
rossihunter2 said:
no point signing other guys if we dont have a QB who can keep us competitive...
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And yet we’ve had QBs keeping us competitive since 08….crazy.We continuously laud this front office for its abilities to find great players. Why couldn’t they find the next Flacco or Lamar or a player soemwhere on that spectrum. Why does the world end and franchise is never more competitive if Lamar walks if his price is to high?

It doesn’t , Lamar era fans are just obsessed with keeping him at all cost regardless of the consequences. Lamars are great player and they should pay him top dollar , like they did Flacco , but they certainly shouldn’t over extend themselves.
 
Damn this Lamar stuff is taking off. Not that it should be surprising. Just wish people could think for themselves and realize that this is a clear effort to push something across the finish line with a deadline approaching. Not saying it's the right way to negotiate but it's the modern way to negotiate and it's been highly successful in the past. I know this is a much harder contract to get done than most so no guarantees, but both sides are clearly pushing.
 
gtalk12 said:
when have we ever signed top tier receivers? When have we ever signed top tier anything outside of ET that ONE year?

I think the contract ultimately will make sense for both sides. Lamar doesn't strike me as the type to want everything for himself knowing how it would leave the team/affect his teams chances of putting pieces around him
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Tank said:
Not just about signing free agents, also need cap to keep/sign other valuable drafted talent to their first vet contracts.

I hope you’re right and they’re able to work a deal that makes sense to all.
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You can't have Lamar locked into a guaranteed contract that on the low end takes 20% of the cap and hope to sign Hamilton, Linderbaum, Likely and other draft picks you've hit on hwhen their deals come due (If warranted). They will command high money. Maybe I exaggerated with "top tier," but we certainly wouldn't be able to carry a top 10 WR with the market price increasing the way it has, a top 5 safety and CB, an additional top 10 center... you get my point. There's only so much money. Holly wood was traded as much because we can't afford him AND Lamar. Whether he asked for a trade or not, we couldn't have signed him and then Lamar no matter how much we might have loved Hollywood.

I'm not saying that they won't sign or shouldn't sign Lamar, but I don't want back in a situation like we ran into with Joe Flacco either, where we had to have him and the last 2 or three years of his contract were cap disasters. We were definitely hindered/unable to get some higher quality guys in here, much less "top tier guys." I just think putting that much into one player, in what is still a team sport, where you can get a lot of bang for your buck in other less expensive areas, is a bad model.

That article after the draft this year about how we target certain positions like Oline in later rounds, TE, and S was a primer on how teams adjust in team building away from having to pay huge sums on QB's, WR's, and DE/Edge guys.
 
Dom McRaven said:
Bruh, @JAAM , I can't believe this shit would require this, but fuck it. We #SIIE'ing this shit. Lamar gonna get paid by our FO and this saga will be over.
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Hell MF yea. At what point does this become concerning though lol? This has been going on for a while and it’s puzzling (to me)

Just talking out loud

#SIIE
 
Florida Raven Fan said:
I get the feeling Lamar doesn't want to stay in Bmore. I also feel he is being disrespectful by liking posts about him going to Miami it creates unnecessary drama.
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Everything going down (especially him liking the Miami tweet) is extremely unusual
 
gtalk12 said:
Na, he recently got a Ravens chain. I think we are looking too hard into this
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Probably...Probably not lol. The chain doesn't mean anything it's a badass logo. I have no relation to Baltimore and I have crab stickers with the Maryland flag on my car. I probably represent harder then some of yall that are from there

I get it though he's from FL, probably has his family and friends down here and who wouldn't want to play for the city they are from.
 
Everyone has to stop worrying about it. Lamar Jackson will be signed one way or another and at worst we will have one hell of a haul in draft picks. I'd rather have Lamar over the draft picks and so does Steve B, EDC, Harbaugh on down.
 
Florida Raven Fan said:
I get the feeling Lamar doesn't want to stay in Bmore. I also feel he is being disrespectful by liking posts about him going to Miami it creates unnecessary drama.
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Up to this point Lamar has handled himself well and I’ve liked and respected the way he’s had a humble “team first” attitude. Hopefully he’s not becoming “that guy”, because his level of humility definitely seems to have dropped some. Other things too like wearing shades on the sidelines during a night game seem pretty silly to me, kinda diva like.
 
Florida Raven Fan said:
Probably...Probably not lol. The chain doesn't mean anything it's a badass logo. I have no relation to Baltimore and I have crab stickers with the Maryland flag on my car. I probably represent harder then some of yall that are from there

I get it though he's from FL, probably has his family and friends down here and who wouldn't want to play for the city they are from.
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Nobody reps Maryland harder than a marylander, we are obnoxious as fuck with our rep, we plaster the flag on every available surface
 
drjohnnyfever said:
You can't have Lamar locked into a guaranteed contract that on the low end takes 20% of the cap and hope to sign Hamilton, Linderbaum, Likely and other draft picks you've hit on hwhen their deals come due (If warranted). They will command high money. Maybe I exaggerated with "top tier," but we certainly wouldn't be able to carry a top 10 WR with the market price increasing the way it has, a top 5 safety and CB, an additional top 10 center... you get my point. There's only so much money. Holly wood was traded as much because we can't afford him AND Lamar. Whether he asked for a trade or not, we couldn't have signed him and then Lamar no matter how much we might have loved Hollywood.

I'm not saying that they won't sign or shouldn't sign Lamar, but I don't want back in a situation like we ran into with Joe Flacco either, where we had to have him and the last 2 or three years of his contract were cap disasters. We were definitely hindered/unable to get some higher quality guys in here, much less "top tier guys." I just think putting that much into one player, in what is still a team sport, where you can get a lot of bang for your buck in other less expensive areas, is a bad model.

That article after the draft this year about how we target certain positions like Oline in later rounds, TE, and S was a primer on how teams adjust in team building away from having to pay huge sums on QB's, WR's, and DE/Edge guys.
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Ehh, I wouldn't go that far yet. For starters, some of the guys that are on high priced contracts now might be gone or cheaper by then (Peters, Stanley, Marlon, Williams, etc.).
Most importantly... nobody knows what the cap is going to look like. In five years, if the cap were north of $250M, it wouldn't surprise me at all. In which case a $50M cap hit isn't prohibitive, especially when a lot of the guys you listed will just be on the early end of their large extensions.

Not to mention none of the guys you listed have played a snap of regular season football yet, so I don't know if they'll even be good enough to warrant extensions. Chances are by the time Likely is eligible, we'll just be swapping him for Andrews, since a) Andrews isn't under contract then and b) he'll be a close to 30 year old TE with a TON of usage. Not sure he's going to be like a 15 year player.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Ehh, I wouldn't go that far yet. For starters, some of the guys that are on high priced contracts now might be gone or cheaper by then (Peters, Stanley, Marlon, Williams, etc.).
Most importantly... nobody knows what the cap is going to look like. In five years, if the cap were north of $250M, it wouldn't surprise me at all. In which case a $50M cap hit isn't prohibitive, especially when a lot of the guys you listed will just be on the early end of their large extensions.

Not to mention none of the guys you listed have played a snap of regular season football yet, so I don't know if they'll even be good enough to warrant extensions. Chances are by the time Likely is eligible, we'll just be swapping him for Andrews, since a) Andrews isn't under contract then and b) he'll be a close to 30 year old TE with a TON of usage. Not sure he's going to be like a 15 year player.
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Perhaps, but I just don't buy it yet. With the way WR contracts and QB contracts increased this year and the demand for guarantees increasing, something's gonna have to give even with payrolls above 250M because none of the contracts are going to get any cheaper.
 
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