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Lamar Jackson

Ellicottraven said:
I'm kinda disappointed it is this low in terms of guarantees. Either the Ravens are cash poor and can't put up that kind of money in escrow or are simply unwilling to. Either way, I'm disappointed it isn't at least 175M guaranteed, which would surely have helped seal the deal. I like that it was a 6 yr offer. I just think a 303M-6yrs-175M guaranteed, with a 50M signing bonus would've gotten the deal signed. Just a hunch of course.
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I'm sure it's atleast 180m if not more in total guarantees. 50m signing bonus would be cheap. He was getting 133m at signing in the deal mortonson was talking about. That was his signing bonus, not the total guarantees.
 
BoredMarine13 said:
I think this was Lamar’s side. Seems like a fair contract offer but no where near what Lamar wanted. Think he’s letting the world know the Ravens aren’t close.
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Whoever keeps stirring the pot is an ahole. The negotiations went way too long to begin with, way past time to put that out and concentrate on winning football games.
 
Tank said:
Whoever keeps stirring the pot is an ahole. The negotiations went way too long to begin with, way past time to put that out and concentrate on winning football games.
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season hasn't begun and its not like the negotiations interfered with his practice time. I'm going to have to disagree with you.
 
RavensMania said:
season hasn't begun and its not like the negotiations interfered with his practice time. I'm going to have to disagree with you.
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Hard for me to rationalize that the season begins at 1:00 PM today. Seems it actually started at the beginning of training camp. Huge distraction both for Lamar and the team.
 
I know the guaranteed money thing is the sticking point, but, honestly, I don't get it. I mean I do, but, come on. He's a young healthy guy, so barring injury, he's gonna get the full Monty of the contract. $290M. And yearly, that's the highest paid QB in the league right now. He essentially got the numbers he wanted except the guarantee. But it's not like he's not gonna get the money or they can refuse to pay it. If he's playing, he's getting it all. And if he were to get injured and never play again he'd get some kind of settlement on the remainder, which would probably be close to what he was looking for in a guarantee initially.
 
RavensMania said:
that was the guarantees at signing or signing bonus......not total guarantees.
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Has it been reported what the total guarantees were? Was it in excess of the 189M that Kyler got? Another question is the 'escrow' amount. Do the teams only have to escrow the guarantees at signing or the fully guaranteed number?
 
Ellicottraven said:
Has it been reported what the total guarantees were? Was it in excess of the 189M that Kyler got? Another question is the 'escrow' amount. Do the teams only have to escrow the guarantees at signing or the fully guaranteed number?
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It hasn't been reported but I'd expect it to be atleast 180 if not more than Kyler's
 
Nurps said:
*RAISES GLASS

Heres to seeing a whole new version of unflustered, pissed-off Lamar go THE FUCK OFF this season!
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RavensMania said:
I'm sure it's atleast 180m if not more in total guarantees. 50m signing bonus would be cheap. He was getting 133m at signing in the deal mortonson was talking about. That was his signing bonus, not the total guarantees.
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The problem is we just don’t know what they offered in TOTAL guaranteed money. You have to read the fine print in these contracts. There are triggers that add “guaranteed” $$ over the life of the contract. So the “at signing”:guaranteed money is what is absolutely guaranteed no matter what happens. Or at least that’s the way I understand it.
 
29BmoreBird22 said:
I think Lamar is making the absolute right call, honestly, to maximize the amount of money he gets. If he plays his cards right, he could have $300M guaranteed at 28 years old.

As it stands now, Lamar will make roughly $125M, if I'm remembering correctly, on the fifth year option, and two tags. That's $125M guaranteed BEFORE he's even 28, which means that he's still in his athletic prime for a quarterback. There's also a chance that Burrow and Herbert sign mega deals, fully guaranteed or not, that push the average price of the tag even further, meaning Lamar only stands to gain money by waiting. He could theoretically cash in $130M off the fifth year and two tags and then come back to the negotiating table with a way higher cap in three years and get $150M+ guaranteed at signing.

If he gets hurt? He'll just point to Huntley and Dak Prescott. "Look how well we did with Tyler Huntley. Look at Dak getting paid after a nasty ankle injury." He'll just reopen negotiations and likely sign for what was offered before.

Unless he has a catastrophic, career altering injury, he's very unlikely to lose money and only stands to gain a large amount of money.

I'm all for him doing what he's doing. The Ravens are making A LOT of money off of Lamar and Lamar is putting his body on the line every single week. He's going out there and leveraging the fact that he's one of the NFL's most dangerous players into the most money he can and I'm all here for it with how much owners profit off of these guys.
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This is the key point I think people are missing. Unless something completely catastrophic happens, the offer we’re discussing now is still probably the minimum offer he gets next year. The risk on Lamar’s side actually isn’t too large. That’s why I think both sides did the right thing in a roundabout way. The Ravens made a fair offer on the current market value and Lamar understands that market value is much more likely to go up than down.
 
Simba said:
This is the key point I think people are missing. Unless something completely catastrophic happens, the offer we’re discussing now is still probably the minimum offer he gets next year. The risk on Lamar’s side actually isn’t too large. That’s why I think both sides did the right thing in a roundabout way. The Ravens made a fair offer on the current market value and Lamar understands that market value is much more likely to go up than down.
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It's just this simple. The media were honestly just so annoying. And you could see that Lamar's personality towards the media has changed a little bit in particular over the last 2 years. He's more short tempered, more easily aggrevatable online, literally trolling as a relief outlet. And I understand all of it. Leave the kid the fuck alone. It's his life not yours.
 
ravenslord said:
Don’t you think the Ravens organization runs the risk of pissing off Lamar enough he asks for a trade ?
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I truly believe hes mulling all options right now. I'm sure he'd love to play in a more flashy market. I dont think he considers himself married to Baltimore.
 
Simba said:
With all of the details coming out now, I think the Ravens made a more than fair offer. Yet, I still think Lamar is in his right to turn it down. It’s his opportunity to set the market and he has some fail safes in place to continue that opportunity. He might get the fully guaranteed that he wants and he might not, but he holds the leverage right now. There’s some risk involved but the guy is going to make a ton of money at some point. Might as well wait and see, especially with $45M coming his way next year. Don’t remember who tweeted it, but someone pointed to Dak and the deal he got after injury. If Lamar gets hurt, that’s when he might “settle” for a still large offer. But for now, play it out.
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Looking at those terms - my guess is the total guarantees were probably closer to 200m but only 133 fully guaranteed

I think we’re gonna have to offer close to 200m guaranteed to get this done
 
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