Lamar Jackson

[Simba]

Don’t you think the Ravens organization runs the risk of pissing off Lamar enough he asks for a trade ?

I'd be surprised if this is the end result as of now. Based on the reports, Lamar understands why the Ravens offer was what it was, and the Ravens understand why Lamar said no. If the market goes Lamar's direction, the Ravens will pony up. They know they have to. They just know they don't have to right now.

 

[rossihunter2]

But only 133? Now thats way too far off..not like he rejected 180 fully, it was 133 lol.. have you seen kyler play last 2 seasons? mans looked bad.. didnt kyler get like 165 fully?

Kyler got about 100m fully with 165 total guarantees

 

[RavensMania]

Looking at those terms - my guess is the total guarantees were probably closer to 200m but only 133 fully guaranteed

I think we’re gonna have to offer close to 200m guaranteed to get this done

you mean 133m at signing.

 

[rossihunter2]

lets remember, 133m at signing doesn't mean that is the only guaranteed money in the deal. I'd bet atleast his first 2 years are guaranteed along with roster bonus in the 2nd year. I'd like to know the total amount of guarantees in this contract, not just at signing.

You’re talking about the difference between fully guaranteed and total guarantees and the fully guaranteed is where the big disconnect is

 

[rossihunter2]

I think this was Lamar’s side. Seems like a fair contract offer but no where near what Lamar wanted. Think he’s letting the world know the Ravens aren’t close

My guess is this was leaked on Friday and everyone’s sat on it until gameday for discussion purposes when the most eyes are on

 

[SepticeyePoe]

It infuriates me how many people I see still claim that Lamar is a run first QB

 

[rossihunter2]

I truly believe hes mulling all options right now. I'm sure he'd love to play in a more flashy market. I dont think he considers himself married to Baltimore.

I think he’s made it clear dozens of times at this point that he envisions himself in Baltimore with the ravens

 

[rossihunter2]

I'd be surprised if this is the end result as of now. Based on the reports, Lamar understands why the Ravens offer was what it was, and the Ravens understand why Lamar said no. If the market goes Lamar's direction, the Ravens will pony up. They know they have to. They just know they don't have to right now.

Josina Anderson’s tweets this morning emphasised that all the talks were engaged in in good faith - I’ve no worries about any sort of animosity

 

[rossihunter2]

you mean 133m at signing.

That’s the same thing as fully guaranteed

 

[SaltyDog]

We can hope! LET’S GO!

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Cheers! Time to tee it up.

 

[RavensMania]

That’s the same thing as fully guaranteed

correct, but there are other guarantees in the contract and many people are reading this as it being the only guarantees in the contract.

 

[Nurps]

I think he’s made it clear dozens of times at this point that he envisions himself in Baltimore with the ravens

If the price is right.......

 

[rossihunter2]

correct, but there are other guarantees in the contract and many people are reading this as it being the only guarantees in the contract.

Sure - I do think it’s worth understanding though that it was always going to take significant full guarantees that approach 200m at a minimum

You’re not going to sway Lamar with 133m fully guaranteed if he’s looking at Watson’s deal

My guess is the ravens made that offer, understanding that they can always up it next year

 

[RavensMania]

Sure - I do think it’s worth understanding though that it was always going to take significant full guarantees that approach 200m at a minimum

You’re not going to sway Lamar with 133m fully guaranteed if he’s looking at Watson’s deal

My guess is the ravens made that offer, understanding that they can always up it next year

I'd agree with this statement

 

[rossihunter2]

If the price is right.......

And the price will be right at some point - the closer Lamar gets to leaving, the higher his leverage gets and the higher the ravens offer will be

At a certain point bisciotti’s going to cede some ground on an ideological level here

 

[Nurps]

And the price will be right at some point - the closer Lamar gets to leaving, the higher his leverage gets and the higher the ravens offer will be

At a certain point bisciotti’s going to cede some ground on an ideological level here

I hope you're right! I love the dude.

 

[Nurps]

Its gonna be a long day at the bar being the only ravens fan with everyone talking shit about Lamar

 

[drjohnnyfever]

Its gonna be a long day at the bar being the only ravens fan with everyone talking shit about Lamar

They'll simmer down after his 5th TD pass...

 

[cdp]

I call cap. This is all speculation. Lamar's been silent about it and our FO barely leaks anything.
Only NFLPA could've leaked it. But it was reported they weren't deeply involved.

 

[Simba]

I call cap. This is all speculation. Lamar's been silent about it and our FO barely leaks anything.
Only NFLPA could've leaked it. But it was reported they weren't deeply involved.

Feels like a clear as day Ravens leak. They wanted people to know that they made him on offer that was reasonable and he said no.