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The 2023 Offseason Thread
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Dom McRaven
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We don't have much draft capital to begin with. And honestly, I don't even want to worry about FAs or trades until we extend Lamar.
James Proche for Ramsey straight up.
Thezone27
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how stupid do you think the rams are?
gtalk12
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you son of a bitch, you read my mind
RL52TheGreatest
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Proche for a bag of potato chips
Thezone27
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EMPTY bag of potato chips
RL52TheGreatest
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Yes, a bag of Lays Potato Chips
JO_75
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I said someone from either Philly or San Fran. Philly to me is what our offense should have evolved into after 2019, a solid run game but better passing game which Brian Johnson brings to the table. Of course just putting Lamar, Dobbins, Gus, and Andrews in that West Coast/Shanahan offense would be deadly so Slowik is fine too. Seeing Andrews used like Kittle and Kelce.... insane to think about.
Thezone27
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Well Andrews did have more rec yards than Kittle
Andy Reid has been coaching for over 10 years and he probably hasn't had a offense as explosive as the one he has now with Patrick M as his quarterback. I don't think Greg Roman made Lamar Jackson who he is but I think it has been kind of weird that fans have down played Roman success as if Jackson put him on the map. It's true Alex Smith was considered a bust before Roman came along, It's true a 6th round quarterback(Tyrod Taylor) drafted by The Ravens ended up making the pro bowl after playing in Greg Roman offense, and It's true Colin Kaepernick had his best years under Greg Roman.
It's probably also true this wave of The NFL implementing college /high school level offensive concepts in their offense probably was inspired by Greg Roman success with The 49ers. Teams like The Rams and even Bears have been noted for copying some stuff that Romans does in his offense. I'm not at all saying Roman departure means LJ is going to regress or be bad but I think Roman was better than given credit for regardless if it was time for him and The Ravens to move one after last year.
gtalk12
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Thezone27
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Lamar could have been even better in 2019. We would have one the SB if it wasn't for Roman/
gtalk12
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both can be true. Roman did install an offense that Lamar could take advantage of. We have never seen an offense here in Baltimore that effective, ever.
My issue comes from some guys in the media making it look like this is the only offense Lamar can play because it was designed with his strengths in mind.
Roman is a genius, and if I have a young QB he would be perfect to bring in. The only issue with him is his situational play calling (though it could be on John for not overriding the plays at times) and his pass game concepts. Too many times I saw pass catchers standing next to each other
Nah that playoff loss was totally due to The Ravens defense playing poorly and receivers dropping key passes. 2019 /2020 playoff is probably the only time we saw LJ throwing mechanics be at it's best if we comparing to other playoff games he has played in since then
Thezone27
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Lamar is the opposite of Flacco; great int he regular season, but not so great in the playoffs
gtalk12
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I am not sure that I agree with that. Though it's true that Joe had a record of 4-3 in his first 3 appearances in the playoffs, he only threw 3TDS and 7ints in those games.
We did manage to win a few of those games but remember the type of defense we had and the type of Rb we had as well. Can't fall in love with records all the time.
In those 3 years the Ravens defense was 3rd in points scored against for each of those years
It was Flaccos 4th trip to the playoofs where he turned it on.
I think our defense was rank 3 in 2019 if I am not mistaken
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have you seen how many 1st round picks they have traded. I mean they don't have a 1st round pick until 2045
Think we may have been 2nd, but Wink got worse with each passing year and never truly adjusted with all the injuries we were having. We also needed to play more zone coverage schemes to be able to stop these big passing offenses, ie the Bengals.
drjohnnyfever
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I'm having a hard time understanding how we draft a top WR with the 20 or 21 pick. With the expense of that position in FA there are going to be teams picking and reaching for WR's thru out the draft just to avoid having to pay FA money. With also having only 5 picks, there's no real capital to trade up either. I'd prefer we don't go WR in the first round. I would rather see a DL or CB there. I think other teams are going to be running on WR and that always means good players fall.
That said, I would much prefer the Ravens use the Buck Showalter Starting Pitching Model as it relates to WR. Get me two legit number 2's in FA who are DURABLE and can catch the ball. Don't spend top money, spend second or third tier money for a real nice pair of reliable performers and let the other teams go hog wild on top names and projects from the draft.
That leaves us more money to potentially have Lamar too. Either on the tag or not.
That said, I would much prefer the Ravens use the Buck Showalter Starting Pitching Model as it relates to WR. Get me two legit number 2's in FA who are DURABLE and can catch the ball. Don't spend top money, spend second or third tier money for a real nice pair of reliable performers and let the other teams go hog wild on top names and projects from the draft.
That leaves us more money to potentially have Lamar too. Either on the tag or not.