That's arguably the most sensible pivot from Justin Tucker.
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That's arguably the most sensible pivot from Justin Tucker.
JAAM
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I’d love it
Davesta
Ravens Ring of Honor
If we didn’t have the sack guru in Chuck Smith on our staff, I would be against it. Get me someone like Donovan Ezeiruaku over Mykel. He got more in the pass rushing department coming out. But with Chuck here, I’m more optimistic in Mykel’s development and potential
I've just run a bunch of mock drafts through to see where the different pivot points are outside of the top 10 and how that may affect us...
Some thoughts based on that exercise:
Mykel Williams probably has a floor of 23 and the Packers
Derrick Harmon probably has a floor of 21 and the Steelers (unless they have to go QB)
Jihaad Campbell probably has a floor of 19 and the Bucs (but i also can't imagine the cardinals passing on him)
We could have a little WR run from 18-23
Colston Loveland has a floor of 22 and the Chargers (but both TEs may be long gone by the time we get to the 20s)
No guarantees that either of them will take Josh Simmons, but Texans and Rams at 25-26 feel like probably one of them will take him
If Tyler Booker were more obviously scheme flexible, he'd be guaranteed to be off the board before we even get to the 20s with the interior OL needs in that range - he may well still go in that range
There's not as many obvious IDL places as I thought - that doesn't mean those guys won't get picked but it feels like there's either going to be a run at IDL or at OL (the EDGE run is happening regardless) but that should leave us with one of those positions being a real option at 27
The key pivot points for the ravens in terms of butterfly effect type picks seem to be:
49ers at 11
Bucs at 19
Broncos at 20
Potential outcomes when we're on the clock at 27:
(If there's a run at DL)
Donovan Eizuruaku
1 of these 4 OL (Josh Simmons, Donovan Jackson, Tyler Booker, Kelvin Banks Jr)
(If there's a run at OL)
Donovan Ezeiruaku
Walter Nolen
(In the worst case scenario, where the OL, DL and EDGE boards get wiped out)
1 of these 2 WRs (Emeka Egbuka, Matthew Golden)
Jahdae Barron/Malaki Starks
In the above scenario, if it's Egbuka, I make that pick and don't worry about the fact my WR corps is (too) overloaded
In all likelihood, I think we're going to be sat at 27 with at least 1 of these players (and possibly more than 1) to choose from:
Josh Simmons
Walter Nolen
Donovan Ezeiruaku
Tyler Booker
Donovan Jackson
There's also a world (3 QBs, 2 RBs, 3 non Travis Hunter WRs, 3 non Travis Hunter DBs, 2 TEs) where we get a choice of all of these:
Josh Simmons
Walter Nolen
Donovan Ezeiruaku
Kelvin Banks/Tyler Booker
Donovan Jackson
I feel pretty good about our chances of getting an OL who'll be immediately impactful though at 27
Some thoughts based on that exercise:
Mykel Williams probably has a floor of 23 and the Packers
Derrick Harmon probably has a floor of 21 and the Steelers (unless they have to go QB)
Jihaad Campbell probably has a floor of 19 and the Bucs (but i also can't imagine the cardinals passing on him)
We could have a little WR run from 18-23
Colston Loveland has a floor of 22 and the Chargers (but both TEs may be long gone by the time we get to the 20s)
No guarantees that either of them will take Josh Simmons, but Texans and Rams at 25-26 feel like probably one of them will take him
If Tyler Booker were more obviously scheme flexible, he'd be guaranteed to be off the board before we even get to the 20s with the interior OL needs in that range - he may well still go in that range
There's not as many obvious IDL places as I thought - that doesn't mean those guys won't get picked but it feels like there's either going to be a run at IDL or at OL (the EDGE run is happening regardless) but that should leave us with one of those positions being a real option at 27
The key pivot points for the ravens in terms of butterfly effect type picks seem to be:
49ers at 11
Bucs at 19
Broncos at 20
Potential outcomes when we're on the clock at 27:
(If there's a run at DL)
Donovan Eizuruaku
1 of these 4 OL (Josh Simmons, Donovan Jackson, Tyler Booker, Kelvin Banks Jr)
(If there's a run at OL)
Donovan Ezeiruaku
Walter Nolen
(In the worst case scenario, where the OL, DL and EDGE boards get wiped out)
1 of these 2 WRs (Emeka Egbuka, Matthew Golden)
Jahdae Barron/Malaki Starks
In the above scenario, if it's Egbuka, I make that pick and don't worry about the fact my WR corps is (too) overloaded
In all likelihood, I think we're going to be sat at 27 with at least 1 of these players (and possibly more than 1) to choose from:
Josh Simmons
Walter Nolen
Donovan Ezeiruaku
Tyler Booker
Donovan Jackson
There's also a world (3 QBs, 2 RBs, 3 non Travis Hunter WRs, 3 non Travis Hunter DBs, 2 TEs) where we get a choice of all of these:
Josh Simmons
Walter Nolen
Donovan Ezeiruaku
Kelvin Banks/Tyler Booker
Donovan Jackson
I feel pretty good about our chances of getting an OL who'll be immediately impactful though at 27
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I appreciate the effort put into this post. In the worst case scenario, where OL, DL and EDGE guys go before us, give me Starks and Barron before the WRs.
Ideally, for me it’s one of Nolen, Ezeiruaku, Starks, or Jackson at 27.
if the WR is egbuka then i'd take egbuka
if it's golden or mcmillan then for sure i'd take barron or starks
That’s your preference and that’s okay but I just see that as wasted value in the first. He isn’t starting over our top 3 and would be at best the 4th passing option in his second season.
I’d much rather have the ball skills that both of those dbs bring. They’re also higher on my personal big board but like I said that’s just preference.
would he definitely only be 3rd in year 2?
mark andrews might be gone, no guarantee likely's back either, hopkins won't be back
and in year 3 we might only have Zay left from the current corps
he's not a need, but there's a clear pathway to playtime once you get out of year 1
obviously my preference is that we draft a different position, but he would 100% be BPA on my board vs the DBs, whereas i have golden and mcmillan graded lower
Dane Brugler has Kelvin Banks falling to us which feels like a pretty great outcome
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Lots of negative talk about kelvin banks online lately
ive not seen any of it
and idk why there would be
but if there is, probably it's because teams that need tackles are purely evaluating him as a tackle
whereas we have the luxury of getting to evaluate him as a OL more generally and as someone we'd project to start at LG early in his career (and maybe the whole of his career)
he's strong, powerful, efficient, patient and technical hands in pass pro
in the run game, he doesn't have overwhelming power but has more than enough power and torque in his lower half and hips to create movement at the line, good in space and as a puller, has the lateral ability to be multiple as a blocker
he can lose balance when drive blocking
sometimes gives up a soft edge vs long-armed powerful edge rushers (mitigated significantly by a projected move inside)
the big downside to projecting him inside is that he's only played at LT so there is projection vs the other guys who might go R1 and flex to LG for the ravens:
vs donovan jackson who's shown positional flexibility to play LT and LG
vs tyler booker who's played LG his whole career
vs Josh simmons who hasn't played inside but has transitioned right to left over his career
vs grey zabel who's played everywhere except center...
Since we have chuck, we should be good with ojabo and oweh
7 days til christmas...
allblackraven
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UKRaven1827
Practice Squad
I think Starks is the pick if he is there.
Behind him I think whoever of Nolen or Harmon is on the board.
i'm not convinced he will be BPA at 27 even if he's still available
especially given all the work they've clearly been doing on DBs later in the draft
i think they're hoping an OL is there, like Simmons or Banks
Davesta
Ravens Ring of Honor
You mean double digit sack Oweh?!
interesting that they did this the week before the draft and didn't wait, albeit i dont think they've got any free agents to protect comp picks for to wait for the deadline
still i wonder if it says something about their feelings on the CB class/their ability to get one of the better CBs in the class...
Davesta
Ravens Ring of Honor
Davesta's Top 5
1. Kelvin Banks
2. Tyler Booker
3. Grey Zabel
4. Donovan Ezeiruaku
5. Malaki Starks
give me one of these prospects, and I wont curse your name EDC