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Where you caught up in that housing bubble? I took a hit on that one myself.
So, it's not technically my house. The story is that I lived in Blacksburg where VT is. I lived in an apartment and planned to move to Durham, NC after my lease expired because that's a part of the research triangle. I had a death in the family and the family member owned a house that my grandmother co-signed on. Rather than have her pay the mortgage and for the tens of thousands of dollars in needed repairs, I offered to live in the house and pay the mortgage and she could do her repairs over time to prepare to sell it after I moved out.
 
Just keep throwing resumes out there and you probally got to be willing to move. Sincerely good luck I know its not easy but I didn't find a real good steady job until my late 20's. Before that I bounced around quite a bit.
I go through waves of throwing out applications. I throw out 20 at a time and get nothing back and get discouraged and put out another 10 and get three or four interviews and it's like, "Oh wow, this is great."

The only issue with moving (which I'm very willing to do) is that I'm 22 and it's hard to convince a job I would just up and leave where I am to go out to a new city to work. I really would and I honestly prefer moving.

I'm thinking if I don't find a job by the time I'm 24 (so a year and a half) where I currently am, I'll probably try to move to Durham and see if I can get a job there for a year or two.

Had a friend who after 4 years of looking post grad got a job 1500 miles out west in the middle of no where, so I still hold out hope that my big break will come eventually.
 
difference is our generation cant afford to bounce around in the US because of crippling student debt and in the UK because of a severe housing crisis and student debt
At this point, I wouldn't actually mind bouncing around. Any job I'm doing now isn't paying more than maybe $12-$13 an hour and I'm doing fine on that as it stands, so as long as I can find a job to give me experience, I'm okay bouncing around if it eventually leads to vet school.
 
Republicans just want lower taxes in general and yes that includes the rich.
The issue I have with any Republican tax plan is that they hypothesize that if they cut taxes on the rich, which they will do before the middle class, that will lead to more job creation because businesses will have more money to utilize in hiring and all.

Only issue is that the rich get richer by not spending money and the only way they'd actually hire more people would be if it would lead to higher profits.
 
Being one the older posters on this board I do not see millennials as feeling entitled or wanting everything handed to them. Certainly there are some millennials like that as there are with every generation.

The problem I see millennials facing is a tight job market. If you are an employer with a job to fill and you have two applicants willing to work for the same wage, have the same educational background but one has experience in the field.
Who do you choose? Sadly the applicant with no experience loses out. I feel sorry for the millennials.
Are you on Facebook? Genuine question since there are some people that will not make an account there.

It's kinda died down here lately, but there was a very long stretch where I would see all these videos on millennials and how they're entitled because they got participation trophies when they played rec sports and there's a stigma to a lot of people surrounding people my age.

As for the job part, I'm willing to take less to just get the experience. I can't take no money, but I could take minimum at 40 hours a week and find a way to make it work for where I am now. A lot of the jobs I apply to are paying $20-$25 an hour and I'd be honestly cool taking just $15. Like, I will take less if it means I get the job.
 
Advanced degrees aren't yet what's halting job creation, so let's not make it free, but let's put a dent in it. Make a Master's cost what a Bachelor's does now, Ph. D what a Master's costs.
I know this won't apply to you since you're journalism, but in fields like mine where research is very prevalent, when you apply for your Master's, you can apply to work in a research lab or work as a teacher in a lab for undergrad students and the school will pay for your Master's program or Ph.D and even provide a stipend to help with housing and food costs.
 
Being one the older posters on this board I do not see millennials as feeling entitled or wanting everything handed to them. Certainly there are some millennials like that as there are with every generation.

The problem I see millennials facing is a tight job market. If you are an employer with a job to fill and you have two applicants willing to work for the same wage, have the same educational background but one has experience in the field.
Who do you choose? Sadly the applicant with no experience loses out. I feel sorry for the millennials.


They beat into our heads that education is key etc etc, what they did not tell you is that the market is flooded with people who have degrees and that an Arts Degree or Business Degree is nothing to alot of these companies.

I dropped out of college, twice. I am 26 and earlier this year became a certified finance manager at a dealership, and it pains me to say that I make more money than my friends who have bachelor degrees from schools like FSU and can barely find a job that pays them 40k a year. To make matters worse, to get said degree they had to take student loans. You just graduated with a bounty of 40k with no experience, most of them are forced to go for their masters and stay living at home until their late 20s to afford it.
 
They beat into our heads that education is key etc etc, what they did not tell you is that the market is flooded with people who have degrees and that an Arts Degree or Business Degree is nothing to alot of these companies.

I dropped out of college, twice. I am 26 and earlier this year became a certified finance manager at a dealership, and it pains me to say that I make more money than my friends who have bachelor degrees from schools like FSU and can barely find a job that pays them 40k a year. To make matters worse, to get said degree they had to take student loans. You just graduated with a bounty of 40k with no experience, most of them are forced to go for their masters and stay living at home until their late 20s to afford it.
Shoot... at this point, I'd be thrilled with $40,000 per year...
 
Shoot... at this point, I'd be thrilled with $40,000 per year...

I've met guys who make insane amounts of money, the degree these kids need to start focusing on are the ones that will get you a job right after your graduation.

The mentality of "get a degree to get one because you need it"

I think is counter-productive to tell an 18 year old kid to decide on his future and to just go to school if he or she is undecided. That is a waste of money and the counselors do an amazingly horrible job of encouraging you to take 2 years of schooling because you are going to need it no matter what major you choose. Only to actually choose a major to find out you still need to go to school another year or so because what you did was pointless..
 
I think one of the problems is that students are getting degrees in fields that there is very little chance of getting jobs in. That is very easy to research before they start their college education. There are certain degrees where companies will snatch you right up, take engineering for example. Students have to be smart about their choices.
 
I think one of the problems is that students are getting degrees in fields that there is very little chance of getting jobs in. That is very easy to research before they start their college education. There are certain degrees where companies will snatch you right up, take engineering for example. Students have to be smart about their choices.

and what if they happen to be passionate in that field? should was a generation spend the rest of our lives doing jobs we have no interest in just because the jobs we are interested in are "full"?

is it entitled that id like to enjoy my career just a little bit?
 
and what if they happen to be passionate in that field? should was a generation spend the rest of our lives doing jobs we have no interest in just because the jobs we are interested in are "full"?

is it entitled that id like to enjoy my career just a little bit?

I am with you, really I am. However the way this country works the bills keep coming whether you do what you love or don't. A couple of years ago I really wanted to teach, as a man who sees himself a provider in the future and the son of immigrants who came into this country for an opportunity I tie in my financial success to the future of my children should I choose to have some.

My issue, had I become a teacher in Florida my salary would have been somewhere in the 33-35k range. Granted, CERTAIN areas to live in Florida is cheap but how can I hope to have a comfortable life here in the states and have some fun with my wife with that much? Imagine trying to bring in a child into this world or having to stay as a teacher for many years to make a decent living?

I wish I could teach math or american history and get paid closer to 50k, then maybe I would not mind it much. However, homes are getting more expensive and in order to fund the projects I want to tackle in my late 30s I need money. I have to go where the money is, I never thought I would be a Finance Manager at a dealership....but the way this economy is set up? Alot of peoples passions do not pay and that is not fair, social work is an example.

You put in more work than anyone else and work almost 7 days a weelk. 40k a year? You end up being miserable in what you love doing, I might as well get paid and plan for the future. Buy something cheap now when it becomes available, put some money away, and then try to fit a passion in there somewhere that I can then afford to take a paycut and build something
 
and what if they happen to be passionate in that field? should was a generation spend the rest of our lives doing jobs we have no interest in just because the jobs we are interested in are "full"?

is it entitled that id like to enjoy my career just a little bit?
Then roll the dice and spend the money and get the degree in the field you want. I wish you good luck. I don’t have any other advice for you because I don’t have the power to get you your ideal job. If I could, I would do it for you. For some people that are good with their hands they may want to pick up learning a trade, there is good money nowadays in that and if you can get good at it you can try running your own business. There is no shame in that. It is just a suggestion, not trying to offend.
 
Then roll the dice and spend the money and get the degree in the field you want. I wish you good luck. I don’t have any other advice for you because I don’t have the power to get you your ideal job. If I could, I would do it for you. For some people that are good with their hands they may want to pick up learning a trade, there is good money nowadays in that and if you can get good at it you can try running your own business. There is no shame in that. It is just a suggestion, not trying to offend.

If we can teach my generation to be willing to relocate and work with their hands, boy is there work and opportunity to get on top with that
 
I am with you, really I am. However the way this country works the bills keep coming whether you do what you love or don't. A couple of years ago I really wanted to teach, as a man who sees himself a provider in the future and the son of immigrants who came into this country for an opportunity I tie in my financial success to the future of my children should I choose to have some.

My issue, had I become a teacher in Florida my salary would have been somewhere in the 33-35k range. Granted, CERTAIN areas to live in Florida is cheap but how can I hope to have a comfortable life here in the states and have some fun with my wife with that much? Imagine trying to bring in a child into this world or having to stay as a teacher for many years to make a decent living?

I wish I could teach math or american history and get paid closer to 50k, then maybe I would not mind it much. However, homes are getting more expensive and in order to fund the projects I want to tackle in my late 30s I need money. I have to go where the money is, I never thought I would be a Finance Manager at a dealership....but the way this economy is set up? Alot of peoples passions do not pay and that is not fair, social work is an example.

You put in more work than anyone else and work almost 7 days a weelk. 40k a year? You end up being miserable in what you love doing, I might as well get paid and plan for the future. Buy something cheap now when it becomes available, put some money away, and then try to fit a passion in there somewhere that I can then afford to take a paycut and build something
There is decent money in teaching if you are willing to relocate to certain areas. I know in Maryland certain counties pay really well like Anne Arundel County, but Carroll County not so much. I know teaching does not pay very well in many of the Southern States, like South Carolina. Many times it takes a long time to make good money in teaching, as you go up in your steps you earn more, and then they usually pay you more if you get a Master’s Degree. Most people start out young doing that, and understand they are not going to be able to live out their dream of living in style and comfort going into that field, but it is a noble profession and I have a lot of respect for good teachers.
 
I've met guys who make insane amounts of money, the degree these kids need to start focusing on are the ones that will get you a job right after your graduation.

The mentality of "get a degree to get one because you need it"

I think is counter-productive to tell an 18 year old kid to decide on his future and to just go to school if he or she is undecided. That is a waste of money and the counselors do an amazingly horrible job of encouraging you to take 2 years of schooling because you are going to need it no matter what major you choose. Only to actually choose a major to find out you still need to go to school another year or so because what you did was pointless..
I have a hard science degree in a field that will 100% of the time be relevant. It's not even just about what major you choose; it's just becoming increasingly difficult to find a job at all these days.
 
I hope something decent comes available for you.
Chances are I'll end up moving to an area more suited for what I do, but I really appreciate all the well wishes.

My end goal is vet school, so the job that I find just needs to be good for a year and, if possible, work with animals to make me just a little more appealing.
 
I think one of the problems is that students are getting degrees in fields that there is very little chance of getting jobs in. That is very easy to research before they start their college education. There are certain degrees where companies will snatch you right up, take engineering for example. Students have to be smart about their choices.
So, I went to VT and VT is known to be an engineering school through and through. Problem is, engineering might be the most popular major up their with business. We get a lot of dumb people in engineering on top of people who really do belong in engineering. A lot of local (like within a few states) companies familiar with VT are hesitant to hire VT grads with engineering degrees because they aren't sure who really knows their stuff and who barely passed and has no clue.
 
and what if they happen to be passionate in that field? should was a generation spend the rest of our lives doing jobs we have no interest in just because the jobs we are interested in are "full"?

is it entitled that id like to enjoy my career just a little bit?

 
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