One thing that I don't think people consider is I'm more likely to stay with a job and work 10000% harder in a job I enjoy than a job I hate.
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what this video assumes is that most people like things they are not good at and that enjoyment always comes from prosperity or that they can live on the job that they already have long term
in my experience people are more likely to be passionate about things they are good at and vice versa
and this idea that people shouldn't follow their dreams or do whatever they want is hypocritical given that it's something that our generation has been told to do for years and has never been the case because of saturated job markets - mostly filled with our parents generation who actually could (as a generation) do whatever they wanted and follow their dreams because of the economics of their time
exactly - im gonna be far more likely to work extra hours, be more effective, bring better ideas to the table and generally make the people around me better/happier if im doing something i enjoy
cobrajet
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That is true, and remember money is important but it can’t buy happiness. It is better to take a job that you are making less at, but you are content.
but first you have to get that job - and therein lies the problem
Like I was telling one of the other posters, I'll take less just to get a job with my degree, especially if it's animal research because that's what I enjoy. I just want a livable wage.
I was talking to the vets that I used to shadow and they were saying you don't make much as a vet, and I was just like, "Oh, I'm not in it for the money. I just really love animals and the anatomy aspect of the job." Their response? "Oh, you say you don't care about money, but you will one day."
Pretty sure I won't be as broke as I am now as a vet and it's a job that brings me happiness. That's what counts for me.
exactly - i dont need to live a life of luxury - i just need enough to make ends meet and not be struggling each month
K-Dog
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He never said "Don't follow your dreams" he said the opposite actually he said "take them with you".
I think the point he is trying to make, is passion and careers don't always have to go hand in hand. You can do what you love and still have a job often times.
Thirty years ago I didn't love working on cars. I took a job at an auto body shop because the home improvement market at the time was stagnant and I had a hard time finding work.
Fast forward thirty years and I am very good at what I do. It took a while, but I got good. Very good and I am paid very well for what I do. I love my job and I love what I do, and I don't think it is the money. I am fairly certain if I won the mega lottery I would still go to work every day.
It is still not my dream job. I am fine with that. Dreams change.
I'm personally very open to taking many jobs, but I want them to be within a realm that interests me. I'm open to almost any job in the medical, pharmaceutical, biology, chemistry, biochemistry, forensics, research field with the ultimate end goal of being a vet.
However, I'm probably not going to be happy ever if I took a job as say a journalist, even if I was the best damn journalist in the state.
Somerset Ravens
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cobrajet
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If you don’t mind me asking, what type of career are you looking for? Do you have one job you have your heart set on, or are there several things you would be happy doing if one came available?
K-Dog
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Let me tell you this, if you are young, teens / twenties, if you want to make big bucks in a few years..... blue collar. Trade work has an ENORMOUS skills gap.
In my trade, collision repair, the median age is 45. 45 !!!! The field is drying up. Finding good qualified workers has been just short of impossible.
It is only getting worse. No one is coming into blue collar jobs. Work is abundant, laborers are so very few.
I am pretty sure within the next ten to fifteen years , when people like me start dropping out in big numbers , employers are going to get desperate. Qualified workers will walk into a shop and say "I want $85k to start " and they will get it.
In my trade, collision repair, the median age is 45. 45 !!!! The field is drying up. Finding good qualified workers has been just short of impossible.
It is only getting worse. No one is coming into blue collar jobs. Work is abundant, laborers are so very few.
I am pretty sure within the next ten to fifteen years , when people like me start dropping out in big numbers , employers are going to get desperate. Qualified workers will walk into a shop and say "I want $85k to start " and they will get it.
It's not that I knock that type of work because someone has to do it and it pays your bills, but for someone like me, I'm just not interested at all in it and I know I wouldn't be good. I would be unhappy and not very good as a mechanic, welder, construction worker, etc. I just think I'd do a piss poor job.
K-Dog
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Yeah I was making a general statement. Not directed to you specifically.
That said don't short sell yourself. People surprise themselves daily.
Inqui
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I'm painting part of my house atm and I surprise myself daily with how bad I am at it. Does that count?
Oh, I know- I was just saying, there's a lot of young people, myself included, who just aren't cut out for it. I try to do repairs on my car and it's like the gates of Hell have opened with all the curses that I sling. Just not a real fit for me.
But there are absolutely a group of people who aren't quite cut out for the college route and are too skilled to be working at McDonald's and all they need to do is simply look for that vocational program. For example, my girlfriend's brother really isn't cut out for college, but can do anything you'd want on a car without any formal training or schooling. He works in an auto-parts store right now, but my girlfriend and myself just aren't sure if he'll simply go to school for the year or two he needs to get the mechanic license. It's sad because he has the skill and ability, but he might just not take the next step.
I also want to add that as a society, we should not knock jobs that are blue collar because 1. It's an honest living that pays bills and 2. Someone has to do it.
Sure, being a plumber may not be a glorious and amazing job, but if no one wanted to be a plumber, who fixes your damn sink when it breaks. I saw a quote that said, "Don't criticize and simultaneously expect service." You cannot put down jobs like construction, plumbing, mechanics, etc. when they are so vital to our every day lives.
Oldfaithful
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Want the truth? My dream job is to be an NFL GM... Want the truth?
I'd suck at it. As much as I've been cricitzing his work this offseason, I would be fielding an 0-16 team right now. I'm at best a subpar scout and below average talent evaluator. I couldn't hold a candle to Ozzie and I'm well aware of that. I'm one of the most passionate ravens fans you'll ever meet. But I'd be terrible at it.
But I know what I'm good at. Writing papers? I've become very good, mostly with a lot of help and teachings, but what's wrong with that? I didn't just get into a car and know how to drive. I'm very good at public speaking and orating, it's why I want to be a part of the podcast. I also have experience as a musical performer. I've been asked to be a session guitar player for a record label(long story) and have performed in front of a crowd of thousands. I can handle a crowd. I'm good at setting up argumentative points and acting upon them. It's why every counselor and person I've ever met has pushed me towards the field I'm trying to go into: law. Upon working for a charity organization and my time in the political science major(Hillary Clinton's campaign office offered me a very good job to be a campaign representative in Boulder. Now I despise everything she stands for and didn't take it) have taught me two things that I never knew: I love helping people and I love debating others in person, and I like writing(hence the novels on here and the articles I write). And who knows where I go from here? I'm very good at Politcal Science(currently rocking a 4.0 GPA in my political science major. Major and a 3.5 in economics major and I'm probably going to enter the business school for my minor)
Chasing your passion could get you in trouble is the point of that: sometimes you'll succeed. A lot of people fail though, but that's okay, a lot of them find their way. My dad wanted to be a doctor but found his skill set was better suited to be an auditor. Now, he's incredibly passionate about his job. Loves it. Hated it in college and the first few years doing it.
I see the point of the video: having passion is great. Always carry that with you. But it's okay if what your passion is doesn't turn out to be your career, because you could be very successful. Mike Rowe used trade school. You mean to tell me that electricians and plumbers suck? They're needed in society and if you're a good one you make a damn good living. You're not living a life of luxury, but your very comfortable. And most of those guys are happy. It's why I'm mad when people say that trade school is useless. Electricians, mechanics, plumbers, all make great livings and work an honest job. No issues with it.
For a very long time, my mom pushed me to study law because she thought that I could be a lawyer for pharm companies and the such. I've truthfully considered it and still do, but I'm still holding out hope to be a vet.
Oldfaithful
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To add onto this. If you're an amazing auto mechanic or plumber you could still make a lot of money. There is an uber successful plumber in my neighborhood because he started his own plumbing business. He works 80+ hours a week, but I've never met a happier guy. Probably helps that he drives a BMW 7 series at time. There's an automechanic my family knows that makes $250,000 after taxes annually. Because he gets a ton of clients.
Nothing wrong with trade jobs. At all. Have a ton of respect for them.
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