You can use it as a counter point if you'd like, but when we can only isolate that event, but count SEVERAL events of minorities (notice not all workers; just minorities) suing him constantly over time, we begin to see that an isolated incident on camera may not be the norm behind closed doors.
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K-Dog
MVP
My point exactly. Those ( some? All ? ) are silly.
Where do you draw the line and who draws it?
I hate ________. Is is just that ?
What one word can you put in that blank that automatically changes that to "hate speech " what one word can you put in that blank and make it not hate speech?
Will all people and groups agree on both counts?
Hate speech is wrong I get that. But I don't think it is the governments job to legislate and mandate morality especially when it comes to speech. It simply is not their job.
K-Dog
MVP
So he is a part time racist?
Ya know, just because something bad happens to a minority it is not nessicarilly * because * they are a minority. Sometimes bad things just happen.
Or he's a full time racist that did something for a camera to look good for a presidential election. I mean, that's a possibility.
Well, when it consistently happens to minorities and not the whites who work for Trump, I begin to ask questions.
K-Dog
MVP
You're correct, it will not. The fact of the matter is that there are people in this thread who will defend him. It's not a surprise that someone likes him.
that may well be how it works in the usa - but a with many things the us does, i find it weird and crazy - for some it surely isnt an option to take a different job - in most other western countries sick leave is an intrinsic part of a job
but you're missing the point, just saying i hate _____ in an isolated environment doesnt constitute hate speech - when its a reference to a minority group its likely reprehensible morally but it doesnt constitute hate speech because its not directed or threatening
if you dont think its the governments job to legislate and mandate hate speech laws then who's job is it? what's the government for if not to intervene on various issues - because at the moment your responses to most things is that the government should leave well alone on most issues - so why have a government at all if thats the case?
exactly - its like saying "i cant be racist because i have a black friend"...
If 990 people said that Donald Trump didn't pay them and said it was because they were black, but 10 said he was great to them as blacks, would we turn a blind eye to the 990 because 10 went against it?
That's what I'm essentially seeing here.
K-Dog
MVP
Do you have any thoughs on that video?
And FWIW I don't like the guy.
K-Dog
MVP
Okay.
My buddy and his gf were out on the town.
A gang of young black men ( eight ) attacked them. his gf was raped by five of them. My buddy was forced at knife point to wach.
My frinds mother in law was car jacked robbed of her purse and pistol wipped by two young black men.
An ex gf got lost in the wrong part of Baltimore she was pulled from her car and stripped near naked by three young black men, befor someone came to her aide.
A friend eight year old daughter was repeatedly sexually assaulted by a young black man.
When my family was young. My parents took us to DC to see the museum's and a picnic on the mall. Three young black men ran through our picnic stomping and kicking our food.
I was knocked unconscious on the Baltimore light rail in "the knock out game" by a young black man.
Every single crime. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Where there was a perpetrator. It was a young black man.
Based on your reasoning, 90% of the crimes committed against me and the people I care about were at the hands of young black men.
Can I say young black men are out to get me?
Would that be fair? Accurate?
BTW full disclosure, I don't have a problem with young black men, but I am uneasy in certain situations. Do you blame me?
When you "come to" and you are in a ball on your wifes lap and there is a crowd of black youth filming pointing and laughing you come out jaded.
K-Dog
MVP
@rossihunter2
Have you ever read our constitution?
Do you understand what that document is and what it means to this country ?
Perhaps it will help you understand what the role of our government is and is not.
Have you ever read our constitution?
Do you understand what that document is and what it means to this country ?
Perhaps it will help you understand what the role of our government is and is not.
no i understand the context - i just dont know why it is still definitive given that it initially came into force in 1789... its almost 250 years old which means its pre-industrial and yet it still governs the way your country is run ideologically
Willbacker
Ravens Ring of Honor
I have left Rossi a link a couple different times showing him Art 1 Sect 8 showing the 18 enumerative powers of the federal govt and when it comes to health and education the federal govt should not be controlling in any shape or form. These should be state issues
The Constitution is the law of land. It takes 2/3 of the Senate, 2/3 of the House and 3/4 of the states to change anything regarding the 1st amendment.
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
Just out of curiosity - why should health and education be localised to states? Shouldn't somebody from Kentucky be entitled to exactly the same levels of care/assistance/support as a person from Nevada?
Somerset Ravens
Pro Bowler
Sick leave being part of a compensation package is certainly a bargaining chip. If you apply for a job and they offer $ 40,000
a year, if you are not happy with the amount you turn down the job. It is the same thing with sick leave.
Honestly it seems you are the one who is out of touch.
The Raven
Veteran
Sick leave shouldn't be a bargaining chip. If that makes me out of touch, whatever.
A lot of people -- and yes, especially in Somerset -- can't afford to pick and choose their job based on whether it has sick leave or not.
Somerset Ravens
Pro Bowler
Why wouldn't it be an option for someone to take a different job?
Many companies used to and still have separate sick leave and vacation. However more and more companies are resorting to paid time off (pto) PTO is a combination of sick leave and vacation into one package. It’s a way of eliminating the accumulating of sick leave over a long time. Companies have to insure sick leave and many people take it years later when they are making more money, hence it costs them more money.
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