Tied for first iirc. Of course Weddle coming and CJ progressing in coverage boosted those numbers. But Jimmy was back to imo a top3 CB status, Weddle was a solid starter after a position switch at 30 some, our rookie corner started outside and handled the best of them except Dez...
I think Boykin is going to play off his back foot. So he's trash
Back foot jokes are the new quick twitch muscle.
deebo has bypassed Winchester
I like Boykin, and am hopeful he can perform for us.
Truth be told, I wouldn't even place Boykin and Arrington in the same sentence. If there were sources that placed Arrington as potentially the best slot CB in the NFL, they were likely in the vast minority. Most outlets were aware of the fact that he had issues with preventing surrendering yards. Even in the year with the league-leading 7 INTs, he was charted for roughly 1,000 yards, one of the league's worst totals for CBs, with other numbers being in the lowest bracket as well. In the following season of 2012, he allowed the 10th most yards with 810, and half-way through the year, he was allowing a QB rating of 155.8 with a completion percentage of 80%, the league's worst number. We also brought him in off of an up-and-down season; otherwise, I doubt that one of the best slot CBs in his mid-twenties would've netted just $7 million on a 3 year contract. I personally had low expectations for him.
Where are these charted numbers from?
It's the raw data pulled from PFF. I have the links available to the articles with the figures if they're needed. I recall them well as I begun following Arrington since his 2011 season given that it was a near-prime example of misleading season totals painting a different picture than the entire package. To his defense, the numbers given were a larger indication of his struggles on the outside as he he did perform significantly better in the slot during the 2012 season, and he followed it up with perhaps his best campaign after. I've seen the .71 figured as well, however, it was given prior to our playoff game during the SuperBowl run. The number for 2014 was 12.6, which was the 2nd best in his division. He had a decent season in 2014, but it's difficult to argue that he one of the best slot CBs in the league. He only played 451 snaps despite the paper starts, and he was released 2 years into his 4 year deal with just $6.5 million remaining. Arrington wasn't the worst CB in any season, and he was a rock solid run defender throughout his most of his career. The numbers were meant to serve the point that he had his tough times in coverage, and in most seasons, he was a middle of the pack CB.
I admit I was excited when we signed Powers and Arrington, only to be disappointed later. I like the signing of Boykin for needed depth covering the slot receiver, but admit I was too disappointed by Tavon Young's injury to get very excited this time around. I am still bummed about Tavon. I hope that Boykin can put his injuries behind him and become a good slot corner again. Heck, I am praying that ALL the secondary can stay healthy. (Please God hear my prayers!!!!!!!!) I do like that I am hearing good things about Canady and I really hope he can step up this season.
Ok that explains the discrepancy, most likely, where I was only focusing in on performance in the slot - which admittedly may not be the best indicator, especially when it wasn't their primary role, but considering its the role we brought them in to play i figured it was the most translatable.
On the contrary, I feel like your focus on their performance in the slot makes more sense than judging the whole package because that's the role they were assumed to fill upon arrival. The following is definitely a fair point. My only comment would be, and this is why I consider them apples and oranges, I felt that both Arrington and Powers had disappointing campaigns compared to their previous years to at least some extent. They were only in their late 20s, but there was enough mileage on the tires between them to wonder whether the most recent year made them a future bargain and bounce-back candidates or whether it was an indication of the drop off continuing. It's why I personally had my expectations tempered for each acquisition. The same goes for Boykin, obviously. To be honest, he may have an even lower floor due to the fact that his dependability rides on his (shaky) health. But he's less weathered with 32 less games than Arrington upon arrival and 25 less than Powers, and his play remained even, so I prefer his ceiling of the three. So you and I are essentially coming to the very same conclusion in that we can't expect Boykin to be a major contributor. I just wouldn't Arrington as a potential parallel considering that the concerns about the two upon arrival are different. It would definitely be great to have three young CBs to build on.
I was surprised to read that until I saw that it was written by Ike Taylor. Surprisingly, for a long-term member of the secondary, he's raised a few eyebrows in the past. He continues to place Chris Harris Jr. and Aqib Talib at no higher than No.2 on his list of CB duos. You could very well make a case for either one possibly being the best CB in the NFL last season, and each one has played at a top-tier level for years. Granted, he's given that title to A.J. Bouye and Jalen Ramsey, which deserve to be in the Top 5 on paper with Bouye playing lockdown defense and Ramsey shaking off an iffy start with a very strong finish. It's just strange to see what is easily the best duo of CBs the league has seen in past few years not earn their credit over a duo who hasn't even played a snap together to this point.
Im sorry but young is more valuable than carr!! You guys dont really think carr is good right? We wouldve been fine with humprey on the outside and young in slot.
I will take young over boykin any day
I see what youre saying but id rather lose carr than young! Trust when i say, carr was a very bad CB for the cowboys but playing for us he liable to be a stud cause that usually happens