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Lamar Jackson, the Miscommunications, and the Refs

Ah, yes- all on Lamar, but someone refuses to blame Harbaugh and/or Monken. What says you, @29BmoreBird22
 
Tank said:
Not doubting this could be the way it happened, but it makes zero sense to me that we’re consistently seeing these mistakes at the worst times from a 7th year vet who’s a 2 time MVP. It’s gotta change for us to have tournament success. I mean the athletic talent is obviously there, just some sort of mental block or something.
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Joe Burrow scored 10 points at home against the tanking Patriots
 
This year really looks like last year. The NFL has a ridiculous amount of parity and we're going to be absolutely among the very best.

Harbs needs to run the Ben Cleveland experiment asap and EDC needs to figure out what magic he can pull for a guy if Cleveland truly is as bad as Faalele.

He won't be though.
 
UPennChem said:
This year really looks like last year. The NFL has a ridiculous amount of parity and we're going to be absolutely among the very best.

Harbs needs to run the Ben Cleveland experiment asap and EDC needs to figure out what magic he can pull for a guy if Cleveland truly is as bad as Faalele.

He won't be though.
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I think Ben’s in the ol’ doghouse
 
UPennChem said:
I mean he clearly is. But how could "not practicing well" mean fucking anything when Faalele means you can't run the ball to the right and a crazy liability in pass pro
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It's more than practice, for what it's worth. It's a huge part of it, but there's also a feeling that he just doesn't finish blocks or play with a Ravens temperament (anyone could have told you that based on the Georgia tape). I'm not saying that they're making the correct choice, but they have very factual rationale.
 
Simba said:
It's more than practice, for what it's worth. It's a huge part of it, but there's also a feeling that he just doesn't finish blocks or play with a Ravens temperament (anyone could have told you that based on the Georgia tape). I'm not saying that they're making the correct choice, but they have very factual rationale.
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Yeah that's also fine. Then maybe only let Simpson walk and ship Moses but keep Zeitler. Like be reasonable. You didn't just learn that about Cleveland.

Then ok, try Faalele. Anyone with eyes could've told you he was incapable of pulling based on the preseason which is against backups. He also showed slow hands and slow feet.

It's just dumb as fuck and pretty inexcusable. Zeitler's impact would be dramatically greater than adding Eddie Jackson.
 
Simba said:
We really got fucked on the new illegal formation shit. Have hardly seen that today. Think I've seen 2 total and we got 3 on the first fucking drive.
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It was sickening, especially watching Taylor literally lining up the same, and leaving early almost every play with no flag. Not sure what was on that linesman’s mind.
 
UPennChem said:
Yeah that's also fine. Then maybe only let Simpson walk and ship Moses but keep Zeitler. Like be reasonable. You didn't just learn that about Cleveland.

Then ok, try Faalele. Anyone with eyes could've told you he was incapable of pulling based on the preseason which is against backups. He also showed slow hands and slow feet.

It's just dumb as fuck and pretty inexcusable. Zeitler's impact would be dramatically greater than adding Eddie Jackson.
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I'm far from excusing it but I also don't think it's quite that black and white. EDC seemed very clear that they made the decision early on that it was time to get younger on the OL.
 
Simba said:
I'm far from excusing it but I also don't think it's quite that black and white. EDC seemed very clear that they made the decision early on that it was time to get younger on the OL.
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He certainly did say and do that. That's just highly stupid on the magnitude they did it with almost no correcting measures. It was ship 3 out and draft a really really weak OT. Bring in 0 guards. Make the biggest man in the league who you don't trust to play RT play RG.

I mean come on.
 
Simba said:
It's more than practice, for what it's worth. It's a huge part of it, but there's also a feeling that he just doesn't finish blocks or play with a Ravens temperament (anyone could have told you that based on the Georgia tape). I'm not saying that they're making the correct choice, but they have very factual rationale.
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Things can be factual and also fucking stupid. In fact the truth is often stupid.
 
Maybe we should wait a few games before condemning the O line strategy. But I will say the potential fly in the ointment here is the unfortunate and untimely passing of Coach Joe D.
 
Simba said:
I'm far from excusing it but I also don't think it's quite that black and white. EDC seemed very clear that they made the decision early on that it was time to get younger on the OL.
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cant rely on Zeitler forever and the cap is tighter this year than it's been in years - you keep Zeit and you have to cut Mekari or Ricard (or both) and that's only if he we convince him to re-sign for the same deal in February (before his void years tolled) - if we let him hit the open market and then sign him for the deal he's on now then we're looking at giving up at least 3 of Mekari, Ricard, Van Noy, Maulet, Agholor

i think they were hoping that one of the OL would make it to their 3rd round pick
i think, failing that, they were hoping that out of Sala, Faalele, Cleveland (and maybe Josh Jones) that someone would prove themselves at least an ok option

the other part of this is that they were gonna have to rip the bandaid off one year or another - next year we might be looking at a new LT (or switching Rosengarten there) which means at least 1 and maybe 2 new OL next year as well - if you have Zeit for this year then you're again potentially looking at 3 new OL starters next year and you're just pushing the problem down the road

if Faalele is still the starter at the end of October and he still sucks then i think maybe we'll be in the market for a rental (if we can find one) or a high quality OL (if one's available... unlikely) but we are financially pushed up against it to make anything happen this year in season
 
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