The Offseason Thread

[balfan23]

and he should reset the market considering the best ILBs in the game, Kuechly and Wagner's contracts are from 2015. He will reset the market until they get paid again. Most likely they will get a new contract in 2020. I think Mosely ends up getting 13 to 14m per year average.

It just feels like we’re finding ourselves in a no win situation with Mosley. To keep him we’ll need to sign him to a bad contract and if we let him walk the D will suffer no matter how we try to fill the hole.

 

[balfan23]

Controlled Dangerous Substance

Hmmm so this report states that separately from the weed. So it is a different non disclosed substance? That could be far more serious depending on what it is.

So 10g+ of weed is apparently a different charge than < 10g. Is that the threshold for a distribution charge? (Asking cause I’m thinking you are law enforcement and would know)

 

[cobrajet]

It just feels like we’re finding ourselves in a no win situation with Mosley. To keep him we’ll need to sign him to a bad contract and if we let him walk the D will suffer no matter how we try to fill the hole.

I agree, we are in a lose-lose situation.

 

[RavensMania]

It just feels like we’re finding ourselves in a no win situation with Mosley. To keep him we’ll need to sign him to a bad contract and if we let him walk the D will suffer no matter how we try to fill the hole.

I understand where you are coming from, but the contract will start to look better in a couple years, especially after the new CBA and Kuechly gets extended in 2020.

 

[Simba]

I understand where you are coming from, but the contract will start to look better in a couple years, especially after the new CBA and Kuechly gets extended in 2020.

To me, this is the important thing to remember. I'd be shocked if we don't sign Mosley and of course, when those details come out, people are going to be screaming overpay because it might set a new mark. That's how it has to be in this market though. The cap is taking sizable jumps each year... so are salaries. The cap has gone up $45M since Kuechly signed his extension. In 2-3 years, Mosley will probably be back in the 5-10 range of ILB salaries.

 

[Simba]

Ravens fans: We don't need CJ Mosley. He's going to get overpaid.

Ravens: Okay, we'll just let our good player go and draft a mid round replacement and hope it works out. We'll also ignore WR again because we have to replace one of the beating hearts of this team.

Ravens fans:

 

[cobrajet]

Hmmm so this report states that separately from the weed. So it is a different non disclosed substance? That could be far more serious depending on what it is.

So 10g+ of weed is apparently a different charge than < 10g. Is that the threshold for a distribution charge? (Asking cause I’m thinking you are law enforcement and would know)

In Maryland possession of marijuana has changed. Anything over 10 grams can carry jail time but under that amount will not. Possession with the intent to distribute is more on how it is packaged, for example: a large bag containing weighed out smaller baggies for resale. If you can pick off a buyer or make a controlled purchase, then it is a no-brainer that you charge the distributor with the felony of possession with the intent to distribute. The buyer only gets the possession charge.

 

[Tank]

In Maryland possession of marijuana has changed. Anything over 10 grams can carry jail time but under that amount will not. Possession with the intent to distribute is more on how it is packaged, for example: a large bag containing weighed out smaller baggies for resale. If you can pick off a buyer or make a controlled purchase, then it is a no-brainer that you charge the distributor with the felony of possession with the intent to distribute. The buyer only gets the possession charge.

Sounds like the intent to distribute charge was for the CDS. Wonder what the hell they had?

 

[cobrajet]

Hmmm so this report states that separately from the weed. So it is a different non disclosed substance? That could be far more serious depending on what it is.

So 10g+ of weed is apparently a different charge than < 10g. Is that the threshold for a distribution charge? (Asking cause I’m thinking you are law enforcement and would know)

And yes, with the way that article is written, it would lead one to believe there was another substance seized, but it did not say what it could be.

 

[cobrajet]

Sounds like the intent to distribute charge was for the CDS. Wonder what the hell they had?

The article may have just been written awkwardly. Marijuana is still considered CDS.
The way it would be written in the Statement of Charges would read:
....did possess a Schedule 1 controlled dangerous substance, to wit: marijuana, with an intent to distribute, in Baltimore County, State of Maryland.
In the Statement of Probable Cause it would probably read:
“Under the driver seat, a large ziplock bag containing eleven smaller ziplock baggies containing a plant-like material (suspected marijuana) was recovered and submitted to Evidence Control under Control Number 123456, where it was photographed and Laboratory analysis was requested.”

 

[cobrajet]

Sounds like the intent to distribute charge was for the CDS. Wonder what the hell they had?

Hopefully for his sake...it wasn’t those “Yellow Tops” (glass vials containing crack) or those “Spider Bags” (little bags of heroin stamped with a personal identifier so those on the street know they are getting the good stuff that is less cut down).....lol.

 

[cobrajet]

My wife had me rolling on the floor laughing with this comment, “he could have avoided all that drama and still had a job if he would have taken the four wheel drive.”

 

[Tank]

Hopefully for his sake...it wasn’t those “Yellow Tops” (glass vials containing crack) or those “Spider Bags” (little bags of heroin stamped with a personal identifier so those on the street know they are getting the good stuff that is less cut down).....lol.

As is often the case I think there’s a back story here, just seems so out of character for Collins. But then again one just never knows, now do one.

 

[balfan23]

In Maryland possession of marijuana has changed. Anything over 10 grams can carry jail time but under that amount will not. Possession with the intent to distribute is more on how it is packaged, for example: a large bag containing weighed out smaller baggies for resale. If you can pick off a buyer or make a controlled purchase, then it is a no-brainer that you charge the distributor with the felony of possession with the intent to distribute. The buyer only gets the possession charge.

Wow. 10 grams of weed is the threshold for potential jail time? That seems ludicrous. I don’t know where you stand but I fail to see the value in creating hardened criminals out of recreational users destroying their future potential in terms of employment and basically forcing them on a worse path than they otherwise may take. Especially since this ends up being skewed towards those living in impoverished areas where they are more apt to get caught in a net intended to catch more serious criminals. IMO this is something I feel has been wrong for decades and it amazes me we haven’t figured that out yet.

Don’t mean to turn our offseason thread into a drug policy thread but that piece of information you provided just surprised me a little. Especially given MD is largely considered to lean left of center.

 

[Willbacker]

Hopefully for his sake...it wasn’t those “Yellow Tops” (glass vials containing crack) or those “Spider Bags” (little bags of heroin stamped with a personal identifier so those on the street know they are getting the good stuff that is less cut down).....lol.

Thank goodness for you cuz I never heard of none of this stuff and the drug culture has completely gotten crazy with all the different stuff.

Wow. 10 grams of weed is the threshold for potential jail time? That seems ludicrous. I don’t know where you stand but I fail to see the value in creating hardened criminals out of recreational users destroying their future potential in terms of employment and basically forcing them on a worse path than they otherwise may take. Especially since this ends up being skewed towards those living in impoverished areas where they are more apt to get caught in a net intended to catch more serious criminals. IMO this is something I feel has been wrong for decades and it amazes me we haven’t figured that out yet.

Don’t mean to turn our offseason thread into a drug policy thread but that piece of information you provided just surprised me a little. Especially given MD is largely considered to lean left of center.

I don't disagree with you but say you have an oz it could be broken up in 4 ways for redistribution and if you're walking around with some do you really need more than 10 grams. How high ya gonna get? If people just use some more common semse

 

[cobrajet]

Wow. 10 grams of weed is the threshold for potential jail time? That seems ludicrous. I don’t know where you stand but I fail to see the value in creating hardened criminals out of recreational users destroying their future potential in terms of employment and basically forcing them on a worse path than they otherwise may take. Especially since this ends up being skewed towards those living in impoverished areas where they are more apt to get caught in a net intended to catch more serious criminals. IMO this is something I feel has been wrong for decades and it amazes me we haven’t figured that out yet.

Don’t mean to turn our offseason thread into a drug policy thread but that piece of information you provided just surprised me a little. Especially given MD is largely considered to lean left of center.

I hear what you are saying, but things have become more relaxed in court. You never get jail time in court even with 5 times that. It just doesn’t happen unless you have a serious record, out on bail, or parole. However, for me, you add loaded guns in the mix and that changes things. My experience with individuals who run around with both loaded guns and drugs, is not a good one.

 

[rossihunter2]

I understand where you are coming from, but the contract will start to look better in a couple years, especially after the new CBA and Kuechly gets extended in 2020.

Yeah unless we’re paying him edge rusher money I don’t think there’s a reason not to pay him and set the market for ILB

 

[balfan23]

I hear what you are saying, but things have become more relaxed in court. You never get jail time in court even with 5 times that. It just doesn’t happen unless you have a serious record, out on bail, or parole. However, for me, you add loaded guns in the mix and that changes things. My experience with individuals who run around with both loaded guns and drugs, is not a good one.

Oh yeah I wasn’t speaking on this in terms of Collins situation just that specific law. The gun charge is far and away the primary concern and I’m sure the Ravens view it that way too. Yes guns and illegal drugs is a bad combo. He’s likely permanently out of the league.

And I assumed that the court is not going to seek to imprison someone for that. The biggest impediment is the effect of having a record. I am a person who leans right of center but on the topic of marijuana prohibition I’m of the mind that the right has that one wrong.

 

[cobrajet]

Yeah unless we’re paying him edge rusher money I don’t think there’s a reason not to pay him and set the market for ILB

Mosley is probably a top 5 ILB, so I am not opposed to resigning him. We can probably absorb his cap hit, as our cap issues are starting to improve.

 

[gtalk12]

I will never understand the need to have drugs on you when you are an athlete making decent money.

Seriously.

What the fuck