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[rmcjacket23]

So The Bears requested an interview with Mike McCarthy who is a free agent once his contract runs out after this week but the Cowboys denied them. So this means Mike McCarthy is coming back? I'd be pissed if I was McCarthy knowing my contract is up and I lost out on a potential job only to be let go.

Well either a) they have an agreement to keep him in place, or b) he can just wait until next week and interview wherever he wants. Would be surprised to see Chicago hire a HC in the next 4-5 days.

I personally also don't know why people would want to leave the Cowboys for the Bears. Jerry Jones sucks as a GM, but he shits all over the dumpster fire at the top of the organization that is the Bears. The franchise has zero clue how to put a winning football team on the field.

 

[Michael M.]

Monken doesn’t feel like a big loss if he left…… anyone else feel the same ?

Losing Monken doesn't seem bad, unless we lose Tee as well. I'd like to see Martin as his successor

 

[BoredMarine13]

Naw bro, we need monken. Offense looks comfortable af.. got 2-3 players often wide ass open to the point where any one of them would go for a big gain.

He’s been a positive(minus his awful AFC championship) for sure BUT I also have complete faith that if Monken walked this offseason the Ravens still get 10-12 wins next year, assuming Lamar is healthy.

 

[Baltimorican]

That's not a question for me. That's a question for Davis. I'm not the one who opted to promote like the 6th most qualified person on my staff to HC after firing somebody else. But it'd be impossible to argue that public relations wasn't a key part of it. Especially for an Owner who has less than stellar race relations in their past.

Name the 5 more qualified who were passed over because of DEI.

 

[RavensMania]

That's not a question for me. That's a question for Davis. I'm not the one who opted to promote like the 6th most qualified person on my staff to HC after firing somebody else. But it'd be impossible to argue that public relations wasn't a key part of it. Especially for an Owner who has less than stellar race relations in their past.

less than stellar race relations. Where is this coming from?

Hall of Famer Al Davis went the extra yard for social justice | Pro Football Hall of Fame

When it came to social justice and providing opportunities for minorities, Davis was eons ahead of his time.

www.profootballhof.com

 

[rmcjacket23]

Name the 5 more qualified who were passed over because of DEI.

Because of DEI? Not all. There were more qualified black coaches on that staff that should have gotten the interim job over Pierce. One of which is getting interviews now.
Lets go through the list. At the time of Pierce's hiring:

Antonio Pierce: 2 years as a college DC, and 1.5 years as an NFL linebacker coach.

Patrick Graham: 4.5 years as an NFL DC
Rob Ryan: 13 years as an NFL DC (including five years under Mark's daddy)
Chris Ash: 4 years as a HC of a College program (Rutgers), 2.5 years as an NFL secondary coach
Scott Turner: 3 years as an NFL OC, 8.5 years as an NFL positional coach (mostly with QBs)

And those are just the guys I've heard of. They've got other positional coaches who have more tenure and have been in positions better suited to be the HC of a pro team than Pierce did.

 

[rmcjacket23]

less than stellar race relations. Where is this coming from?

Hall of Famer Al Davis went the extra yard for social justice | Pro Football Hall of Fame

When it came to social justice and providing opportunities for minorities, Davis was eons ahead of his time.

www.profootballhof.com

That's Al, not Mark.

 

[Deebo813]

He’s been a positive(minus his awful AFC championship) for sure BUT I also have complete faith that if Monken walked this offseason the Ravens still get 10-12 wins next year, assuming Lamar is healthy.

We need a SB..

 

[airconteka]

 

[zbeaster]

I don't think Monken will get poached, but it wouldn't be shocking. Hopefully he stays.

 

[zbeaster]

He’s been a positive(minus his awful AFC championship) for sure BUT I also have complete faith that if Monken walked this offseason the Ravens still get 10-12 wins next year, assuming Lamar is healthy.

Agreed. With Lamar and assuming his good health, playoffs should always be an expectation. Monken is a good OC but if he were to leave it's not catastrophic.

 

[rossihunter2]

Brady gets his revenge for those Super Bowl losses. Pierce fired by the Raiders.

This is the firing that feels nasty.

He did a good job with a terrible roster and then they let him stand in front of the press and give a presser this week and think he still had his job only to fire him last night.

This is the one that truly makes minority coaches go why the fuck do we bother? What more did pierce have to do to keep that job?

In the same vane, isn’t it interesting that the patriots managed to interview pep Hamilton and Byron leftwich on the same day (most HC interviews take a lot longer than a half day), and in so doing they just happen to have managed to satisfy the Rooney rule already…

I think the mayo firing made a lot more sense than the pierce firing - the fact that pierce didn’t get to keep his job is wild to me

 

[rossihunter2]

There is a balance that Monken has brought to the offense. While Greg Roman posted great running numbers, it was at the expense of being one dimensional in big games. Remember how many times the Ravens had 2-3 receivers running routes in the same area?

Monken may not be a top 5 OC but he's definitely top 10. He makes adjustments at halftime and has brought a healthy consistency to the offense. I would not be comfortable watching him walk and replace him with another OC.

My hope with any monken replacement is that Lamar is now so in control of the offence that he’s become the de facto OC and all you’re really hiring is a guy to call plays and work in partnership with him

I wouldn’t be surprised if tee Martin was the successor to monken for that exact reason

 

[rossihunter2]

Because of DEI? Not all. There were more qualified black coaches on that staff that should have gotten the interim job over Pierce. One of which is getting interviews now.
Lets go through the list. At the time of Pierce's hiring:

Antonio Pierce: 2 years as a college DC, and 1.5 years as an NFL linebacker coach.

Patrick Graham: 4.5 years as an NFL DC
Rob Ryan: 13 years as an NFL DC (including five years under Mark's daddy)
Chris Ash: 4 years as a HC of a College program (Rutgers), 2.5 years as an NFL secondary coach
Scott Turner: 3 years as an NFL OC, 8.5 years as an NFL positional coach (mostly with QBs)

And those are just the guys I've heard of. They've got other positional coaches who have more tenure and have been in positions better suited to be the HC of a pro team than Pierce did.

So all this proves is that it was clearly not a DEI hire and the fact you referred to it as such reveals more about you than it does about the situation

 

[rmcjacket23]

So all this proves is that it was clearly not a DEI hire and the fact you referred to it as such reveals more about you than it does about the situation

What backwards logic did you use to arrive at that conclusion?

 

[RavensMania]

That's Al, not Mark.

it's true that it's Al, but you haven't given me any reason to believe it's not Mark Davis either. That's why I asked you.

 

[RavensMania]

My hope with any monken replacement is that Lamar is now so in control of the offence that he’s become the de facto OC and all you’re really hiring is a guy to call plays and work in partnership with him

I wouldn’t be surprised if tee Martin was the successor to monken for that exact reason

No question Tee Martin would be the successor. However if Monken stays this year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Tee Martin hired in Seattle to become the OC.

 

[rmcjacket23]

it's true that it's Al, but you haven't given me any reason to believe it's not Mark Davis either. That's why I asked you.

I think hiring Jon Gruden, knowing exactly who Jon Gruden was as a person, before he hired him, qualifies as "not the social justice butterfly".

 

[RavensMania]

I think hiring Jon Gruden, knowing exactly who Jon Gruden was as a person, before he hired him, qualifies as "not the social justice butterfly".

I disagree. At that point I believe they were trying to get back to who they were as a franchise and Gruden had them playing well. You are reading too much into this, but that is your opinion.

 

[rossihunter2]

What backwards logic did you use to arrive at that conclusion?

you yourself just acknowledged that there were other (more) qualified minority candidates so it inherently can't be a DEI hire in that sense lol

also, sidenote... this warping of the idea of DEI being a bad thing is bizarre, as if it means candidates will be inherently less qualified or prepared than their non-minority counterparts when in actuality, when it just means giving opportunities to qualified candidates who previously wouldn't be given the opportunities due to lack of access to networking opportunities and hiring biases

and... in many cases these are candidates who've had to work harder to get where they are because of those existing biases preventing them from getting opportunities that their peers get

the people most obsessed with "DEI hires", are using the word DEI as a derogatory stand-in for any minority person getting any high-level or desirable job... it's just the next in a long line of co-opted phrases that ultimately are just racist dogwhistles for people wanting to undermine the positions, qualifications and abilities of minority people.

DEI used to be affirmative action, political correctness, critical race theory, wokeness, snowflake among many other phrases... they are all rhetorical swiss army knives used by racists for cover