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2025 Offseason Thread

I did not know stanley only made like 7mil this past season.. yea he probably gone lol
Don't know that he's 100% not coming back, but been trying to tell you guys all season that not only did he take a pretty massive paycut this past year, but they also shortened his contract, which at least partially indicates a lack of confidence in his ability.
If I were him, the only way I'm coming back is if the Ravens give the best offer, and its substantially higher than anybody else.
And I don't see that happening.
 
he's earned over 4.5m, he can afford to call a cab
So I agree with the premise.
I'll point out, however, that if YOU were as rich as him, you wouldn't call a cab. Most rich people don't.

Consider that the only real "risk" to rich people in a DUI situation is injury. They don't care about the monetary costs of a DUI, because to them, its not a significant amount of $, and in a lot of cases, assuming its a first time offense, they'll be able to plead down to a potential lesser charge (which is actually true for most people).
A "normal" person doesn't avoid driving while intoxicated because they're afraid of killing somebody. Statistically speaking, that's still a very low probability. If you asked somebody honestly what their fear is from driving intoxicated, its the monetary costs and the potential prison time. Rich people aren't really that concerned with that.

I can also guarantee you that the overwhelming majority of people who actually get DUIs don't have the self-awareness to know they've had too much, i.e. they think they're sober enough to get to where they need to go, safely.
 
Don't know that he's 100% not coming back, but been trying to tell you guys all season that not only did he take a pretty massive paycut this past year, but they also shortened his contract, which at least partially indicates a lack of confidence in his ability.
If I were him, the only way I'm coming back is if the Ravens give the best offer, and its substantially higher than anybody else.
And I don't see that happening.
I was actually trying to tag you to suggest that you were right but it wasnt working.. i think he agreed on the paycut because he was hurt so he felt like it was something that would benefit the team…. But yea i didnt know he made so little last season. Its no way he plays close to that again. This is potentially his last biggest pay day, he might as well break the bank and walk off into the sunset
 
Don't know that he's 100% not coming back, but been trying to tell you guys all season that not only did he take a pretty massive paycut this past year, but they also shortened his contract, which at least partially indicates a lack of confidence in his ability.
If I were him, the only way I'm coming back is if the Ravens give the best offer, and its substantially higher than anybody else.
And I don't see that happening.

Nah. He also got hurt the week after signing a hunormous contract and basically got paid massively for two injury plagued years. Taking the pay cut means they are even. Yes, he will take the best deal out there, but no its not like the Ravens have to outbid as if there is animosity. All things even I think he 'd just stay, he just won't take a penny less.
 
I was actually trying to tag you to suggest that you were right but it wasnt working.. i think he agreed on the paycut because he was hurt so he felt like it was something that would benefit the team…. But yea i didnt know he made so little last season. Its no way he plays close to that again. This is potentially his last biggest pay day, he might as well break the bank and walk off into the sunset
I mean its a combo of factors. For starters, if he refused a paycut last year, I'm pretty sure we were going to cut him last year. The dead $ was substantial, but there was cap savings, and I don't think we would ever carry him at the original cap number. And he would have struggled to get any long term deals on the open market last year.

Second, I don't know if the voiding of 2025 was Stanley/agent's idea, or the Ravens. My guess is a combo of both. It's basically a middle ground.

He played last year for $7.5M. I don't think he'll play 2025 for less than double that. So in some form or fashion, you'll need a contract that probably pays him at least $15-20M in cash next year.
 
Nah. He also got hurt the week after signing a hunormous contract and basically got paid massively for two injury plagued years. Taking the pay cut means they are even. Yes, he will take the best deal out there, but no its not like the Ravens have to outbid as if there is animosity. All things even I think he 'd just stay, he just won't take a penny less.
Yeah players, nor agents, view it that way. If that's the logic, then the two injury-plagued years where he was paid a lot was really backpay for the first four years of his career, where he made about $25M over four years, and played like one of the best LT's in football. Certainly underpaid compared to the market, and he wasn't extended "early" either.

By definition, if he's taking the "best bid", it means if its the Ravens, then the Ravens have to outbid everyone else to get him. It means he will simply choose the team that pays him the most $.
 
I was actually trying to tag you to suggest that you were right but it wasnt working.. i think he agreed on the paycut because he was hurt so he felt like it was something that would benefit the team…. But yea i didnt know he made so little last season. Its no way he plays close to that again. This is potentially his last biggest pay day, he might as well break the bank and walk off into the sunset
I think there was a chance he would be cut last offseason and he wanted to stay with the Ravens, therefor he took a pay cut and if he hit certain parameters he could have earned a good portion of it back. Of course All Pro was the parameter.
 
Not all players are motivated by every single penny, and per my guy, Ronnie has said that to the front office directly. He wants to end his career here and he's made that clear. Now, I would not expect him to forgo a ton of money just because he wants to stay a Raven, but if things are close, he's going to return. You never know what offers a guy will actually get on the market, but the confidence of retaining him is decently high. They're willing to pay.
 
NFL salary cap expected to be in the range of $277.5-281.5M for 2025. Up another $22-26M YoY.

For notes, Spotrac had been using $275M, and Ken at RSR (the best spot for seeing Ravens cap situation) was using $272M as his measurement.
 
Not all players are motivated by every single penny, and per my guy, Ronnie has said that to the front office directly. He wants to end his career here and he's made that clear. Now, I would not expect him to forgo a ton of money just because he wants to stay a Raven, but if things are close, he's going to return. You never know what offers a guy will actually get on the market, but the confidence of retaining him is decently high. They're willing to pay.
Can you ask your guy to tell Stephens to sign with KC? We need to self sabotage them in order to beat them lol.
 
Not all players are motivated by every single penny, and per my guy, Ronnie has said that to the front office directly. He wants to end his career here and he's made that clear. Now, I would not expect him to forgo a ton of money just because he wants to stay a Raven, but if things are close, he's going to return. You never know what offers a guy will actually get on the market, but the confidence of retaining him is decently high. They're willing to pay.
I've said this for a while.

Stanley has made like $100M in his career and he seems like a very smart guy. He's probably invested in such a way that he never has to touch a dime and can live off of gains.

I don't think he's going to play for the vet minimum or anything, nor would the NFLPA be happy about that, but I don't think he's going to automatically swing for the fences if a team like the Patriots is offering it. I'd imagine he'll take a bit less to play for a Ravens-Chiefs-Eagles tier team because at this point, he's made the money.
 
I've said this for a while.

Stanley has made like $100M in his career and he seems like a very smart guy. He's probably invested in such a way that he never has to touch a dime and can live off of gains.

I don't think he's going to play for the vet minimum or anything, nor would the NFLPA be happy about that, but I don't think he's going to automatically swing for the fences if a team like the Patriots is offering it. I'd imagine he'll take a bit less to play for a Ravens-Chiefs-Eagles tier team because at this point, he's made the money.
Can confirm he’s made a lot of money beyond football
 
Re-Sign Stanley, trade for Parsons and back load his contract lol. On a more serious note, this is very interesting when it comes to the cap. So good thing for contenders like us where a player may take a back loaded contract in exchange for winning.

 
Re-Sign Stanley, trade for Parsons and back load his contract lol. On a more serious note, this is very interesting when it comes to the cap. So good thing for contenders like us where a player may take a back loaded contract in exchange for winning.


If it was possible, id then trade parsons for garret lol.. does he still have problems stopping the run?
 
We got 11 picks, and a draft that looks CRAZY on day 2.

Low key, I hope no slam dunk obvious choice players for us fall to 27, but a slam dunk obvious choice for someone else who trades us a third to move up, and other trades as well

4 or 5 picks on day 2 would likely pay off better than 3 picks on days 1+2

as my board is shaping up i think im with you

think the difference between the 16th and 55th player on the board is not that big

obviously if you manage to have a chance at one of the top 15 guys then you obviously take that guy but if not, i don't see a need to be forced to pick a guy at 27, especially with the depth at DL and EDGE... in that group of 40 players, currently 15 of them are DL/EDGE
 
Yeah players, nor agents, view it that way. If that's the logic, then the two injury-plagued years where he was paid a lot was really backpay for the first four years of his career, where he made about $25M over four years, and played like one of the best LT's in football. Certainly underpaid compared to the market, and he wasn't extended "early" either.

By definition, if he's taking the "best bid", it means if its the Ravens, then the Ravens have to outbid everyone else to get him. It means he will simply choose the team that pays him the most $.

My only push back is you saying Ravens need to outbid "substantially higher than anyone else". As if he's mad at us. I don't get that at all, I actually think if the offers are dead even he stays. Much ado about nothing because we are prolly getting outbid.
 
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