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2025 Offseason Thread

for me I've got 60 guys total
I haven't got Okoye on my long-list anymore
But I do have Kwenkeu and Samac (who you don't have)

probably only 1 spot open with 8 candidates:
Kirkwood, Dellinger, Samac, Urban, Kwenkeu, Higgins, Brade, Martin
The only reason I don’t have Samac is that he’s C only and I can’t see them going that direction with Bullock winning that job.
 
The only reason I don’t have Samac is that he’s C only and I can’t see them going that direction with Bullock winning that job.

i dont think samac's winning that job at all
and i dont even think it's clearcut he's OL11 let alone OL10
but i do think he's someone they will not want to cut but are going to be forced to (mostly because corey bullock has been a revelation at C)
 
i dont think samac's winning that job at all
and i dont even think it's clearcut he's OL11 let alone OL10
but i do think he's someone they will not want to cut but are going to be forced to (mostly because corey bullock has been a revelation at C)
It looks like Dellinger or bust at OL10 for me. I don’t see it but who knows.
 
i actually think part of the ease of the cuts is because the quality of the rest of the depth on the roster is high, and because injuries have made decisions for you

imagine washington, kone and longerbeam are all still healthy and in the DB battle

likewise, if emery jones isnt injured, you've got 10 OL that you have to keep on the 53 and you can't go "light" and keep only 9

Adisa Isaac's injury means you don't have to worry about the luxury of keeping 6 EDGEs on the initial 53 vs depth at other positions or on special teams

Brent urban also makes the whole 53 question easier because he basically unofficially expands your roster to 54

and outside of LB, there's no obvious positions where we're lacking depth and it's notable that the biggest debates are happening at positions that we're not as deep at LB, DB (after 3 injuries), maybe DL

and speaking of DB, we're debating DB10 vs DB11 vs DB12 and whether we keep 10-12 DBs - but we're also fortunate that we'd probably be ok with any of our top 5 (maybe even 6) CBs being on the field and any of our top 3 S (excluding washington obviously)
Addressing this now that I have a little more time, but yeah I agree for the most part. Injuries certainly made things a lot clearer, unfortunately for those guys. Fortunately those guys were further down the depth chart sans Likely though.

I feel like this team is probably deeper through 40-45 than normal, and maybe a little worse at the back end of the roster than normal. Just feels like we have a number of guys that are going to make the team that you could probably shuffle out for a number of other guys either here or outside of the organization and no one is going to lose any sleep.

Shout out to the 2nd and 3rd string types for stepping up and getting better though. It makes me feel a lot more comfortable about the state of the roster despite the lack of confidence in the the last 5-10 or so.
 
My friends are disgusted by this display from the Bengals. They look miserable on defense and Burrow did one of his famous 10 yard elongated sacks he never gets criticized for
 
A few guys i want to watch this week on the coach's film

Tez Walker
Reuben Lowery
Keyon Martin
Aeneas Peebles

Already watched through Faalele, he had a really good game - rock solid in pass pro - good hands, good fluidity, good processing, a couple of poor run game reps and even on the good ones he's not really displacing people but he played well generally
walker needs to show some effort in blocking.
 
Idk if anyone saw what rod woodson said recently and idk if anyone agrees but he was 1000% incorrect and thats not an opinion.. lamar would in fact have beaten the shit out of the 2000 ravens! 2006 team imo, has a better chance but the current ravens team and any team in the nfl pre wildcat and rpo and it likely wouldnt be close
 
Idk if anyone saw what rod woodson said recently and idk if anyone agrees but he was 1000% incorrect and thats not an opinion.. lamar would in fact have beaten the shit out of the 2000 ravens! 2006 team imo, has a better chance but the current ravens team and any team in the nfl pre wildcat and rpo and it likely wouldnt be close
lol Didn't read that, but Rod is probably spot on. Plenty of speed, quickness and run stopping ability on that D, along with a solid secondary. Pretty sure they could have handled anyone or any scheme.

Where did you read/see his comments?
 
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Idk if anyone saw what rod woodson said recently and idk if anyone agrees but he was 1000% incorrect and thats not an opinion.. lamar would in fact have beaten the shit out of the 2000 ravens! 2006 team imo, has a better chance but the current ravens team and any team in the nfl pre wildcat and rpo and it likely wouldnt be close
2000 ravens would have their way with our OL. If the eagles beat us squarely with 99% of it being their DL, then the 2000 ravens would have demolished.

I get what you’re saying, these 2000s units don’t know shit about this option Game and these mobile qbs, but give the vets a bye week to film study and it’s over, they are not blocking that front, the receivers are not holding up against that physicality, and Derrick Henry isn’t running the ball on them.
 
Even with the Isaac injury, I'm being told that Ojabo is still firmly on the bubble. They like the kid and the work he's put in, but the results simply haven't been there and they're inching toward the line of thinking that it's not going to happen here and a change of scenery might be best. I was told explicitly that they don't feel this decision necessarily needs to be made on cut day so he may hang on in the interim, but it sounds like they're kind of giving up on the long term prospects.
 
2000 ravens would have their way with our OL. If the eagles beat us squarely with 99% of it being their DL, then the 2000 ravens would have demolished.

I get what you’re saying, these 2000s units don’t know shit about this option Game and these mobile qbs, but give the vets a bye week to film study and it’s over, they are not blocking that front, the receivers are not holding up against that physicality, and Derrick Henry isn’t running the ball on them.
Teams in todays game got all year and still cant stop us so its no way anyone from back then can. Henry would still run the ball because our run game isnt that old school iform and singleback stuff. Our offense would be far too advance for them
 
lol Didn't read that, but Rod is probably spot on. Plenty of speed, quickness and run stopping ability on that D, along with a solid secondary. Pretty sure they could have handled anyone or any scheme.

Where did you read/see his comments?
We did not have enough speed in 2000 to keep up with current ravens offense. Our run scheme is far different than any offense in history. If we had what was a traditional style
Offense like back then yea we would struggle but we dont..

Someone sent me a twitter post from a guy named chris cooper
 
Even with the Isaac injury, I'm being told that Ojabo is still firmly on the bubble. They like the kid and the work he's put in, but the results simply haven't been there and they're inching toward the line of thinking that it's not going to happen here and a change of scenery might be best. I was told explicitly that they don't feel this decision necessarily needs to be made on cut day so he may hang on in the interim, but it sounds like they're kind of giving up on the long term prospects.
It looks like he doesnt have no kind of burst at all.
 
We did not have enough speed in 2000 to keep up with current ravens offense. Our run scheme is far different than any offense in history. If we had what was a traditional style
Offense like back then yea we would struggle but we dont..

Someone sent me a twitter post from a guy named chris cooper
So I'm guessing you never saw those guys play, and you make it sound like it was the days of leather helmets and guys smoking cigarettes on the sideline. lol There's nothing secretive or revolutionary about today's offensive scheme that Marvin Lewis and Co. wouldn't quickly adapt to. It's still 11 hats on 11 hats, no jet packs or anything. lol

No speed? Ray was in peak form and I'm pretty confident in saying there isn't. or hasn't been an LB that was quicker or faster sideline to sideline. Boulware was big, lean and fast as well. With Sam Adams and and Siragusa keeping those guys clean they were monsters waiting to pounce. McCrary and Burnett sealing the edge. Plenty of speed in the secondary as well.
 
2000 ravens would have their way with our OL. If the eagles beat us squarely with 99% of it being their DL, then the 2000 ravens would have demolished.

I get what you’re saying, these 2000s units don’t know shit about this option Game and these mobile qbs, but give the vets a bye week to film study and it’s over, they are not blocking that front, the receivers are not holding up against that physicality, and Derrick Henry isn’t running the ball on them.
I agree with you on every aspect of what you said. I do believe Derrick Henry would be a very good running back in any generation of football, but running against the Ravens would have been a difficult task.
 
So I'm guessing you never saw those guys play, and you make it sound like it was the days of leather helmets and guys smoking cigarettes on the sideline. lol There's nothing secretive or revolutionary about today's offensive scheme that Marvin Lewis and Co. wouldn't quickly adapt to. It's still 11 hats on 11 hats, no jet packs or anything. lol

No speed? Ray was in peak form and I'm pretty confident in saying there isn't. or hasn't been an LB that was quicker or faster sideline to sideline. Boulware was big, lean and fast as well. With Sam Adams and and Siragusa keeping those guys clean they were monsters waiting to pounce. McCrary and Burnett sealing the edge. Plenty of speed in the secondary as well.
Im saying that it wasnt enough speed and thats actually true lol. What they gonna stay in 3-4 base all game lol and get killed? cause if we switch out of 3-4, then we arent as strong.. offenses today are far too advanced for the 2000 defense. Like i really dont think the game would be close. Cmac used to get killed by wrs with quick feet.. yea bro i dnt think the game would be close.. 2006 defense would do a far better job at containing us and even then would still lose
 
I agree with you on every aspect of what you said. I do believe Derrick Henry would be a very good running back in any generation of football, but running against the Ravens would have been a difficult task.
Eddie george had close to 100 so that mean henry would have done better by playing with lamar. Teams couldnt stop wildcat at first, then rg3 brung read option and they struggled, then rpo and nick foles beat a Bb lead team with it. Not to mention teams couldnt stop vick… its no way lamar would get stopped like at all.
 
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