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rossihunter2

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Sami84 said:
I want to point something out here. What i'm saying about what's really going on isnt speculation, I'd put my life on it.
I know how the establishment works, that's why I left it. I recommend you watch the londonreal video that i posted a few posts above ( or previous page). You'll probably start questioning things a bit more.
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dude ive questioned things my whole life - that doesnt mean im going to start believing some conspiracy theory about covid-19 and a miracle cure drug

im going to trust the actual peer-reviewed science

are you saying that scientists cant be trusted either?
 
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rossihunter2 said:
dude ive questioned things my whole life - that doesnt mean im going to start believing some conspiracy theory about covid-19 and a miracle cure drug

im going to trust the actual peer-reviewed science

are you saying that scientists cant be trusted either?
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Not the scientists that are in charge. There are a number of good scientists who have the peer reviewed studies and worked ( like I have) and are shunned out of the public eye and mainstream media ( guess who owns mainstream media and follow the crumbs)

You're listening to the WHO and BIll Gates/Fauci Narrative.
Very very sad.
 
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if you can't be bothered to read the study: here's the key numbers in summary form:

A Cox proportional hazard model accounting for many confounding variables, including age, sex, ethnicity, comorbidities, other medications, and COVID-19 severity, showed a significant increase in the risk of in-hospital mortality with the four treatment regimens compared with the control group (hazard ratios [HRs] of 1·335 [95% CI 1·223–1·457] to 1·447 [1·368–1·531]). Analyses using propensity score matching by treatment group supported this result. The increased risk of in-hospital mortality was similar in men (1·293 [1·178–1·420] to 1·408 [1·309–1·513]) and women (1·338 [1·169–1·531] to 1·494 [1·334–1·672]). The incidence of repetitive ventricular arrhythmias ranged from 4·3% to 8·1% in patients treated with a 4-aminoquinoline, compared with 0·3% in the control group (p<0·0001).
 
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Sami84 said:
exactly

Healthy people are not good for economies in general. Ask yourself what are the 4 biggest killers in the world today
hint- they tend to be the most affordable foods
hint- they tend to cause the most common death in the world and contribute to the 2nd most common death

so why don't coca cola or mcdonalds go out of business
if government cares about the health of the people

before you say '' Well people have a choice''
Not if you're under or at the poverty line

Guys, i've dedicated my life to this.
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Yes I know the answer.
But I'm going to trust peer-reviewed studies like i always have.
 
rossihunter2

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Sami84 said:
Not the scientists that are in charge. There are a number of good scientists who have the peer reviewed studies and worked ( like I have) and are shunned out of the public eye and mainstream media ( guess who owns mainstream media and follow the crumbs)

You're listening to the WHO and BIll Gates/Fauci Narrative.
Very very sad.
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so what - you believe that people never went to the moon? you believe the earth is flat? you believe that climate change isn't occurring?
 
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Also,

there is no cure for any virus. A virus is here to stay
in order to beat it or make it less tough to deal with you need herd immunity
You don't need lockdowns which delay and do nothing.
Healthy people need to be out and about.
enough said.

These lockdowns are tyranny.

Anyhow, in the londonreal video there are over 120 doctors talking to brian rose about this crap on ZOOM.

Maybe you'll come to a new realization that what the BBC , ITV, WHO, Channel 4 , Sky ( all linked and funded by people who are funding silcon valley giants and big pharma) are saying- is

a crock of shite.
 
rossihunter2

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Sami84 said:
The earth is not flat
Climate change is normal and has been a regular occurence throughout the history of time.

https://www.climatedepot.com/2019/0...are-mickey-mouse-mockeries-of-the-real-world/

Data is mechanistic and epidemiological

see where we're lacking in what the mainstream tell you
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so you're saying that the same scientific consensus is agreeing with you on some things but disagreeing with you on others...

so how could you possibly know which is a conspiracy and which isnt?
 
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rossihunter2 said:
so you're saying that the same scientific consensus is agreeing with you on some things but disagreeing with you on others...

so how could you possibly know which is a conspiracy and which isnt?
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what im saying is that much of the truth is hidden( all documented) and you're getting snippets that suit there agenda. For example i can show you thousands of papers showing how terrible 5G is to the human health.

Not stopping telecom companies from rolling it out ( and no, non ionizing radiation DOES damage DNA and stops oxygen- atp-Mitochondria optimization.

It's hard to research now because google only puts the corporate narrative ( along with youtube) on their search engines.
 
rossihunter2

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Sami84 said:
Also,

there is no cure for any virus. A virus is here to stay
in order to beat it or make it less tough to deal with you need herd immunity
You don't need lockdowns which delay and do nothing.
Healthy people need to be out and about.
enough said.
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the way you create herd immunity is by the use of a vaccine - the need for lockdowns is to delay infection and spread through the population (to protect those most vulnerable) until after there are therapeutic treatments and a vaccine

herd immunity only occurs when about 95% of a population have immunity

and there's evidence that catching Covid-19 once doesn't mean you're immune from re-infection so natural herd immunity isnt a viable strategy

to get to a level of herd immunity that protects the population you need inoculations...

my guess is you've got some conspiracy theory about that too
 
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rossihunter2 said:
the way you create herd immunity is by the use of a vaccine - the need for lockdowns is to delay infection and spread through the population (to protect those most vulnerable) until after there are therapeutic treatments and a vaccine

herd immunity only occurs when about 95% of a population have immunity

and there's evidence that catching Covid-19 once doesn't mean you're immune from re-infection so natural herd immunity isnt a viable strategy

to get to a level of herd immunity that protects the population you need inoculations...

my guess is you've got some conspiracy theory about that too
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A vaccine for a coronavirus is the most absurd ridiculous and disgusting practice anyone could do
which is why its being pushed by gates.
The video above on londonreal discusses how scientificly flawed that statement is

vaccines are not even effective for flu!!!!!! they are only effective for a strain of flu for around 6-9 months.
vaccine injuries are also real. but you wouldnt know that because you havent researched.

herd immunity is a true and proven science
but guess what, you also have to live and eat and healthy lifestyle.
 
rossihunter2

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Sami84 said:
what im saying is that much of the truth is hidden( all documented) and you're getting snippets that suit there agenda. For example i can show you thousands of papers showing how terrible 5G is to the human health.

Not stopping telecom companies from rolling it out ( and no, non ionizing radiation DOES damage DNA and stops oxygen- atp-Mitochondria optimization.

It's hard to research now because google only puts the corporate narrative ( along with youtube) on their search engines.
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for any of this to be true you have to simultaneously think that governments are stupid enough to allow you to believe in your conspiracy theory but also clever and sophisticated enough to coordinate with other governments (and vested interests) around the world with the common agenda of hiding these various conspiracies from you...

it would require almost every scientist in the world to be complicit

that's unfeasible
 
rossihunter2

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Sami84 said:
A vaccine for a coronavirus is the most absurd ridiculous and disgusting practice anyone could do
which is why its being pushed by gates.
The video above on londonreal discusses how scientificly flawed that statement is

vaccines are not even effective for flu!!!!!! they are only effective for a strain of flu for around 6-9 months.
vaccine injuries are also real. but you wouldnt know that because you havent researched.

herd immunity is a true and proven science
but guess what, you also have to live and eat and healthy lifestyle.
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so you're an anti-vaxxer too - never would have guess that lol

you're fulfilling a stereotype sami
 
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rossihunter2 said:
for any of this to be true you have to simultaneously think that governments are stupid enough to allow you to believe in your conspiracy theory but also clever and sophisticated enough to coordinate with other governments (and vested interests) around the world with the common agenda of hiding these various conspiracies from you...

it would require almost every scientist in the world to be complicit

that's unfeasible
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Governments are stupid! and they don't work for the people, they work for the Ca-Ching. You are too gullable buddy. It's okay...you're not ready to really delve into anything but state/corporate narrative.

I'm also tired of the conspiracy theory cop out response. Do you know where the origin of that term came from? Hint...early 60's
 
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rossihunter2 said:
so you're an anti-vaxxer too - never would have guess that lol

you're fulfilling a stereotype sami
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im not an anti vaxxer and im not a pro vaxxer
what im saying is that most vaccinations are not safe and most are not necersarry

stop pigeonholing.

SOME vaccines if done correctly and used properly ( right time, age etc) are useful
but 75% of them arent and a lot cause long term issues
 
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Anyhow, watch the video i just posted above.
 

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