Lamar Jackson

[OURavensFan]

It appears that way now, because players with Lamar’s talents are always pushed to play wr or rb from the time they’re kids. Lamar paves the way for a new breed of qb, kids who would’ve spent their whole adolescence playing rb despite having qb ability will now push to play qb and coaches will be more open minded to it.

Maybe, a lot of these people already do play QB in HS and College though

 

[RavensMania]

Saying “and that’s that” doesn’t suddenly make something true. Ray and Ed were all time greats at their positions, Lamar Jackson is changing how scouts evaluate the most important position in football, there’s different levels to this, there is being great, and then there’s being 1 of 1, Lamar Jackson is a 1 of 1 kind of player, his current slump has nothing to do with it.

Ray and Ed’s impacts are already forgotten outside of Baltimore, Lamar Jackson’s impact will be felt league wide 20 years from now

I don't know about that. I've heard Bill Belichick has nightmares about Ed Reed and Peyton Manning also.

 

[RavensMania]

but that's almost the point isnt it - michael vick is not a massively superstar accomplished player - he played 13 seasons and made 4 pro bowls and won a comeback player of the year award

and yet he's remembered as this magnetic talent with a legacy that belies his accomplishments - everyone knows who michael vick is... probably more people than who know who phillip rivers is for example

Maybe not. Phillip Rivers has lots of children and his children have friends and so on and so on.

 

[Corvus Purpura]

Maybe not. Phillip Rivers has lots of children and his children have friends and so on and so on.

His children are home schooled, so the may not have friends. He wouldn't want them to learn any bad words, after all.

 

[ravenslord]

I don't know about that. I've heard Bill Belichick has nightmares about Ed Reed and Peyton Manning also.

Belichick and Brady both had nightmares about Ed Reed. There was a clip of them watching tape on Ed and shaking their heads saying they had never seen instincts like what he had at Safety. It also showed a clip of Belichick going up to Ed telling him he was the best Safety he's ever seen.

 

[BoredMarine13]

Ray and Ed’s impacts are already forgotten outside of Baltimore

Their busts sitting in Canton say other wise


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[JoeyFlex5]

Okay. You can continue being deliberately obtuse lol, but Lamar already is approaching a lebron-like presence, he has a reputation outside of the average nfl watcher that ray and Ed never had.

 

[ndub]

Okay. You can continue being deliberately obtuse lol, but Lamar already is approaching a lebron-like presence, he has a reputation outside of the average nfl watcher that ray and Ed never had.

“LeBron”… yuck…… I’d much rather have the Kobe/MJ influence of Ray and Ed myself

 

[JAAM]

Okay. You can continue being deliberately obtuse lol, but Lamar already is approaching a lebron-like presence, he has a reputation outside of the average nfl watcher that ray and Ed never had.

Can we replace LeBron with Curry?

 

[ndub]

Can we replace LeBron with Curry?

Lol absolutely not. Curry has won multiple titles

 

[JAAM]

Lol absolutely not. Curry has won multiple titles

I just hate LeBron and I’m a Lakers fan. How about Luka?

 

[ndub]

I just hate LeBron and I’m a Lakers fan. How about Luka?

Luka is perfectly better. Young, vastly talented and has a ton of potential in getting titles… plus hated the former beloved coach….

 

[JoeyFlex5]

“LeBron”… yuck…… I’d much rather have the Kobe/MJ influence of Ray and Ed myself

Fine, Kobe

Can we replace LeBron with Curry?

sure. Any athlete that is a worldwide superstar outside of the confines of their own league.

 

[SaltyDog]

Fine, Kobe

sure. Any athlete that is a worldwide superstar outside of the confines of their own league.

Damn dude, maybe we just get him fitted for the yellow jacket now. I’ve heard they are already working on his bust. J/k man, he’s special and I love to watch him play. I’m just in the camp that says let’s see how his career unfolds before we crown him as greatest ever.

 

[JAAM]

I think a lot of folks are missing Joey and rossi’s point lol. Lamar has the popularity of a LeBron/generational type of talent. They’re not saying Lamar’s on LeBron’s level in terms of success. One day, though…

 

[SaltyDog]

I think a lot of folks are missing Joey and rossi’s point lol. Lamar has the popularity of a LeBron/generational type of talent. They’re not saying Lamar’s on LeBron’s level in terms of success. One day, though…

Yeah I get that and I don’t disagree, He is a special talent. He’s already won an MVP. I just think it’s a bit too early to make those kinds of comparisons. At the end of the day he will be judged by his accomplishments.

 

[JAAM]

Yeah I get that and I don’t disagree, He is a special talent. He’s already won an MVP. I just think it’s a bit too early to make those kinds of comparisons. At the end of the day he will be judged by his accomplishments.

That’s true! Very good point

 

[JoeyFlex5]

Damn dude, maybe we just get him fitted for the yellow jacket now. I’ve heard they are already working on his bust. J/k man, he’s special and I love to watch him play. I’m just in the camp that says let’s see how his career unfolds before we crown him as greatest ever.

Not crowning him the greatest ever, it’s his magnetic aura, people want to watch him, people who aren’t even nfl fans want to watch him, much more than they want to watch just about any other player, he’s must see tv, people weren’t tuning in to see ray Lewis or Ed Reed the way they do Lamar, period. His appeal goes beyond his accomplishments on the field.

 

[SaltyDog]

Not crowning him the greatest ever, it’s his magnetic aura, people want to watch him, people who aren’t even nfl fans want to watch him, much more than they want to watch just about any other player, he’s must see tv, people weren’t tuning in to see ray Lewis or Ed Reed the way they do Lamar, period. His appeal goes beyond his accomplishments on the field.

I get it. I guess for me I just don’t put as much weight into style and popularity as I do results. Hopefully I’ll feel the same way you do in a few more years.

 

[ndub]

I think a lot of folks are missing Joey and rossi’s point lol. Lamar has the popularity of a LeBron/generational type of talent. They’re not saying Lamar’s on LeBron’s level in terms of success. One day, though…

Maybe. I mean LeBron has like what, 4 titles and numerous MVPs?