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2022 General Draft Thoughts

Grim

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um what about DL???
we've got madubuike and washington under contract right now and no one else lol

i like washington but not as a starter - he's a rotational piece i trust to be stout against the run and come in and spell starters
Amen, I think DL is probably our biggest hole by far, more than OL. We have major problems here even if we bring back Williams and Campbell
 

Grim

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i look somewhat at the miami guys from last year - rousseau and phillips (rousseau came in with top 10/top 15 hype and then people got into the film and he dropped while phillips climbed and eventually went top 20)

jabari zuniga and jonathan greenard sort of (zuniga got all sorts of hype while greenard was more quietly one of my favourite edges that year) although they both got taken in a similar range in the 3rd to each other

ZDS and Dupree is a good example for sure

often was probably the wrong word to use lol - but it's interesting that when you've got 2 talented guys in a pair that one will seem to fade into the background unlike corners where it's normally seen more like a team and a group
It’s okay, no worries on semantics. Yeah, I can see that go both ways. I guess it really does depend on the situation. No real true absolute on that front either way, very situational. It just means usually one is a dud though lol. Gosh though would it be great to get an elite edge defender and Oweh develop into a stud
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
It’s okay, no worries on semantics. Yeah, I can see that go both ways. I guess it really does depend on the situation. No real true absolute on that front either way, very situational. It just means usually one is a dud though lol. Gosh though would it be great to get an elite edge defender and Oweh develop into a stud

a legit 4 man pass rush would be so amazing to have lol
 

Charm City

Pro Bowler
um what about DL???
we've got madubuike and washington under contract right now and no one else lol
Yeah completely forgot about DL lol. I would bring back one of Campbell or Williams just to mentor the younger guys but we need to get young there asap. I don’t see a major game changer there in the first though. I’d rather wait until the second and get a guy like Travis Jones rather than take Jordan Davis with the first
 

LSURavenFan

Veteran
I hope Kyle Hamilton is there for the Ravens, but I just don't see it.

I think he could go as high as 3rd. If not, I don't think JD and the Jets pass on him twice.
 

Davesta

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It’s mock draft szn.

Mock draft #1. (fine Harbs.. you get your dang Michigan players)

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purplepittabread88

Staff Member
Administrator
This natty game is gonna be so fun when finalising some draft grades in the front 7s...

unbelievable levels of talent and competition - travon walker vs evan neal has been a particularly fun one so far when walker's lined up on him
I just told my friend, when Bama's offense (and evidently Georgia's D), we are watching 1/4 of the top 15 guys this draft. insane!
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
from my initial look around it seems like Pickett is expected to go somewhere R1, Willis as you say could have someone hyped hoping to capture the lightning in a bottle

but ive thought for a while that sam howell is probably due to rise up the boards and rankings - has all the tools to get scouts excited and when surrounded with weapons in 2020 he was dynamic and electric - he's also headlining the senior bowl too so a big chance to have scouts fall in love with him

id be surprised if more than 3 QBs were in play in round 1

matt corrall and desmond ridder at first glance dont strike me as the guys that nfl teams would covet that high but it only takes 1 team to fall in love

as you say though the free agent market is going to be massive here - cant imagine that under fire coaching staffs in carolina and new york will be able to not draft a rookie with their top pick if they dont land one of the free agents (or trade for a proven guy)

got to think all of these teams in the top 15 will be looking at a QB somewhere in free agency or the draft:

lions
texans
giants
panthers
falcons (maybe)
broncos
washington
vikings (maybe - if new coaching staff)

and a couple outside the top 15: saints, steelers

got to think though that the giants and panthers staffs cant afford not to find a QB this offseason and depending on what happens in houston we're probably looking at situations in houston and denver where new coaches want to find "their" guy to nurture and develop - possibly minnesota and washington too

lots of QB needy teams - not many QB prospects
Mills did pretty good down the stretch with a week team. I think the Texans would do best waiting until the next draft, unless they draft a guy after the 1st round.
 

LSURavenFan

Veteran
Mills did pretty good down the stretch with a week team. I think the Texans would do best waiting until the next draft, unless they draft a guy after the 1st round.


For sure. Houston and Detroit are likely in long rebuilds, both need that franchise QB, This draft doesn't make sense for them though. Both figure to be bad next year as well and in the 23 draft Bryce Young and CJ Stroud will be available.
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
um what about DL???
we've got madubuike and washington under contract right now and no one else lol
I'm really hoping we can bring back Houston on another inexpensive contract. Doubt we have the money to bring back Campbell.

Losing Bowser hurts bad, really bad.
 

ChainedBird

Practice Squad
I'm really hoping we can bring back Houston on another inexpensive contract. Doubt we have the money to bring back Campbell.

Losing Bowser hurts bad, really bad.

I am curious to see how our vet signings will go down. Price dependent I have no qualms bringing back Calais/BWills/Houston, even if their snap count lowers next year.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
The more I look and consider all angles, the more I think Tyler linderbaum might be our best bet, we’re gonna lose bozeman, we’ve had center problems much longer than we’ve had OT problems, mekari and colon both are backups at that spot, not starters, and this is a strong and deep OT class especially if you’re looking for a RT, center offers nothing after linderbaum that I can see, and I see no solutions in FA.

I am not a need over talent guy, but unless a spectacular talent falls inexplicably to us, then linderbaum could easily be argued BPA, at 14 he’s in a cluster of guys who may or may not even be available who you could argue are superior prospects. Guys like ojabo, booth jr, leal, davis, cross, we could take any of them and I’d be satisfied, BUT I would also be just as satisfied with linderbaum there strictly on a talent level, I think booth is the only one there who you could definitively/objectively put above him, and I also feel there are going to be excellent options at all of those positions on days 2 and 3 as well, this is a stupidly deep draft class and edge/cb/s/ot in particular appear to be stacked all the way to round 7, along with LB which I am not looking too deeply into.

I’ll take another year of shootouts, as long as Lamar can stay on his feet, and the run game can get some traction. Give me Tyler linderbaum in round 1 to kick that off, and if he’s available, Daniel faalele in round 2. We need to add to the defense with this mass exodus coming, but first and foremost has to be protecting Lamar, without question imo, that comes first and I’ll sacrifice the defense for it.
 

Grim

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The more I look and consider all angles, the more I think Tyler linderbaum might be our best bet, we’re gonna lose bozeman, we’ve had center problems much longer than we’ve had OT problems, mekari and colon both are backups at that spot, not starters, and this is a strong and deep OT class especially if you’re looking for a RT, center offers nothing after linderbaum that I can see, and I see no solutions in FA.

I am not a need over talent guy, but unless a spectacular talent falls inexplicably to us, then linderbaum could easily be argued BPA, at 14 he’s in a cluster of guys who may or may not even be available who you could argue are superior prospects. Guys like ojabo, booth jr, leal, davis, cross, we could take any of them and I’d be satisfied, BUT I would also be just as satisfied with linderbaum there strictly on a talent level, I think booth is the only one there who you could definitively/objectively put above him, and I also feel there are going to be excellent options at all of those positions on days 2 and 3 as well, this is a stupidly deep draft class and edge/cb/s/ot in particular appear to be stacked all the way to round 7, along with LB which I am not looking too deeply into.

I’ll take another year of shootouts, as long as Lamar can stay on his feet, and the run game can get some traction. Give me Tyler linderbaum in round 1 to kick that off, and if he’s available, Daniel faalele in round 2. We need to add to the defense with this mass exodus coming, but first and foremost has to be protecting Lamar, without question imo, that comes first and I’ll sacrifice the defense for it.
I haven't looked that deep yet, but is Linderbaum that good? He would have to be better than other guys at other positions for me because I think we need practically every position on defense and of course multiple spots on OL could be argued in OT, G, C. What I am saying is, just because we've needed a C longer than an OT doesn't mean we should draft the C. I know you say you're not "need vs. talent" but just saying, not sure I would go that route. The only way I would is if Stanley is done, then I would take one of those elite LTs depending--also gotta remember that the guy you don't take could go to your opponent and haunt you too.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
I haven't looked that deep yet, but is Linderbaum that good? He would have to be better than other guys at other positions for me because I think we need practically every position on defense and of course multiple spots on OL could be argued in OT, G, C. What I am saying is, just because we've needed a C longer than an OT doesn't mean we should draft the C. I know you say you're not "need vs. talent" but just saying, not sure I would go that route. The only way I would is if Stanley is done, then I would take one of those elite LTs depending--also gotta remember that the guy you don't take could go to your opponent and haunt you too.
None of the reasons I listed was “the” reason, just one of a number of factors. This is all with the caveat that linderbaum is legit in the same cluster of prospects available talent wise, what I’m saying is that as it looks right now linderbaum could very well be justifiable as bpa at 14.

yes, he’s that good lol, he’s a damn good C prospect, undersized but he’s super strong at his size and he’s a master of leverage, leg drive, and hand/arm usage, supreme athlete, Garrett Bradbury isn’t a shining example but folks drooled over his athleticism, he seriously pales in that regard to linderbaum, and linderbaum is also much more powerful and is just more natural a people mover, his elite wrestling background shows up in his game.

I recommend you watch his film, it’s impressive as hell. Add ten pounds and I think he’s a blue chip center
 
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