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JAAM

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feel like if we were getting rid of him it would have been this week some time
Part of me feels like even a week after the last game of the season is considered a knee jerk reaction for our team and I wouldn’t doubt it if we waited until after the SB to do something
 

BoredMarine13

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feel like if we were getting rid of him it would have been this week some time

Yep , agree. I’m not fan, but it could certainly be worse. To be to fair with Roman, the passing game looked like it had evolved a lot early in the year.


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JAAM

Hall of Famer
Roman is NOT good for Lamar’s development as a passer. We are impeding Lamar’s growth for as long as Roman is here. But hey, loyalty.
 

Tank

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I think they’ll beat Tennessee. Close game, but I don’t trust the Titans who have had a very odd year( #1 seed but Losses Vs Jets, Pitt, and Houston.


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IDK, looked like the Raiders should have beaten them in their own house, I think Titans handle them. Titans had a lot of Covid issues throughout the season that kinda screwed them up. Seemed like they pulled it together at the end of the season.
 

rmcjacket23

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Part of me feels like even a week after the last game of the season is considered a knee jerk reaction for our team and I wouldn’t doubt it if we waited until after the SB to do something
Can I get names of OC's who will do a better job? Like I feel like fans talk the talk with firing coaches, but they don't walk the walk.

I honestly have yet to see a really strong argument from fans for firing Roman. I've not yet heard an intelligent argument for it. I'm looking at personnel long, long, long and hard before I'm looking at coaching.

Wink gets canned long, long, long before Roman does in my assessment. I'm not sure it's close either. There's a lot of OC's you can bring in where Lamar throws the ball 50 times (bad idea), and there's a lot of OC's you can bring in where Lamar throws the ball 15 times (bad idea). I've never been sold in an upgrade coming from somebody who's never called plays before.

Roman ain't getting fired. Wink ain't getting fired. I don't know why it's so difficult to understand.
 

rossihunter2

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Part of me feels like even a week after the last game of the season is considered a knee jerk reaction for our team and I wouldn’t doubt it if we waited until after the SB to do something

i mean when harbs does make a decision he normally is pretty decisive - it took only 5 days after our season ended (even after making the playoffs for the 1st time in 4 years) for harbs to promote roman and get rid of marty

i could conceivably see them waiting for some of these HC/GM hirings to happen first that will probably start happening next week but if we get past next weekend and nothing's happened then i think we'll be close to 100% that Roman's back for 2022

only thing that might change things is if Wink gets hired and brings a load of coaches with him to wherever he goes but seems unlikely that would impact the offensive staff
 
Roman isn’t going anywhere, his run game is literally legendary. I think the plan is to continue building the passing game and run it back with all our playmakers.

If our roster isn’t decimated by injuries I think we’re playing today and having a completely different conversation.
 

OURavensFan

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Mans is down ASTRONOMICAL. This man is being tortured like no other.
 

OURavensFan

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Raiders for sure, they got screwed on the early whistle , that was pure BS
I was there and I posted a picture of my seats too, I was in that endzone, the whistle was noticeably early and the players stopped. Pure BS, Bengals are getting more calls than the Steelers these days
 

Tank

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I was there and I posted a picture of my seats too, I was in that endzone, the whistle was noticeably early and the players stopped. Pure BS, Bengals are getting more calls than the Steelers these days
The whistle made zero difference in the play. The ball was literally a few feet from the receivers hands when the whistle blew and the defender 25 never flinched. That said, strictly by the rules the play should have been replayed as an “inadvertent whistle”.

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-declin...-errant-whistle-during-controversial-bengals-
 
Roman isn’t going anywhere, his run game is literally legendary. I think the plan is to continue building the passing game and run it back with all our playmakers.

If our roster isn’t decimated by injuries I think we’re playing today and having a completely different conversation.
This. With all of the injuries and Covid bs how can you even make an honest assessment of Roman’s performance this year. I mean some of his play calls down the stretch were head scratchers but it’s like Billick once said: “Coaches call the plays, players have to execute the plays”. And when your practice squad is executing the plays how successful can you be.

I think he comes back unless he and Harbaugh have some philosophical disagreements about what the offense should be, or about how Lamar’s development has progressed.
 

29BmoreBird22

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Can I get names of OC's who will do a better job? Like I feel like fans talk the talk with firing coaches, but they don't walk the walk.

I honestly have yet to see a really strong argument from fans for firing Roman. I've not yet heard an intelligent argument for it. I'm looking at personnel long, long, long and hard before I'm looking at coaching.
I can't speak for others because I don't watch other NFL teams like I used to, so I'm not "in the know" on the next best coaching candidate or the next Sean McVay.

However, I have written extensively (and perhaps it could be cleaned up some to be a little better written, but issues would remain the same) and I know others have written extensively about the issues of Roman.

If you haven't seen good arguments, you're not really looking. Doesn't mean he'll go, but the microscope has been firmly on Roman for two years, so there's plenty of intelligent analysis out there regarding issues he has for the Ravens and how those issues have followed him from Buffalo and San Francisco.
 

rossihunter2

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I can't speak for others because I don't watch other NFL teams like I used to, so I'm not "in the know" on the next best coaching candidate or the next Sean McVay.

However, I have written extensively (and perhaps it could be cleaned up some to be a little better written, but issues would remain the same) and I know others have written extensively about the issues of Roman.

If you haven't seen good arguments, you're not really looking. Doesn't mean he'll go, but the microscope has been firmly on Roman for two years, so there's plenty of intelligent analysis out there regarding issues he has for the Ravens and how those issues have followed him from Buffalo and San Francisco.

if he stays - which seems likely - he's probably more on the hot seat than any coordinator or coach i can remember in recent ravens history
 

BoredMarine13

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I can't speak for others because I don't watch other NFL teams like I used to, so I'm not "in the know" on the next best coaching candidate or the next Sean McVay.

However, I have written extensively (and perhaps it could be cleaned up some to be a little better written, but issues would remain the same) and I know others have written extensively about the issues of Roman.

If you haven't seen good arguments, you're not really looking. Doesn't mean he'll go, but the microscope has been firmly on Roman for two years, so there's plenty of intelligent analysis out there regarding issues he has for the Ravens and how those issues have followed him from Buffalo and San Francisco.

The narrative has always been Roman’s inability to expand our limited passing game. All the amazing running accolades we have accomplished comes at a cost. In order for Ricard to be on the field, you have to take a receiver off. In order to run that receiver on a jet motion before the snap, you have to accept that it eliminates him as a a legitimate receiving or vertical threat. This offense is holding back Lamar’s true potential. It’s time to move on from Roman and the run heavy/condensed formation schemes.


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JAAM

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The narrative has always been Roman’s inability to expand our limited passing game. All the amazing running accolades we have accomplished comes at a cost. In order for Ricard to be on the field, you have to take a receiver off. In order to run that receiver on a jet motion before the snap, you have to accept that it eliminates him as a a legitimate receiving or vertical threat. This offense is holding back Lamar’s true potential. It’s time to move on from Roman and the run heavy/condensed formation schemes.


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It cracks me up how folks like to use the injuries from this season as an excuse. Roman was really lighting the world on fire with his passing concepts last year and in 2019 when we were relatively healthy, huh? How dare Steve Smith and Kurt Warner call him out
 
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