JAAM
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I think I'd rather have someone that has insane pass rushing abilities but still has room to grow as a run stuffer - a la Ojabo. I don't want another Judon lol
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lol that wasnt judon either...
maybe courtney upshaw was more that kind of guy...
but that's not travon walker either - he's a pass rush threat he's just not good with his hands - it might be that early on in his career he gets reduced inside on passing downs and rushes over a guard with his hand power and length
JoeyFlex5
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Travon walker is a projection but he’s nothing like Judon. Judon is not a freak, walker has Aaron Donald levels of freaky athleticism and power and violence, his god given ability is second to none, with him it’s about how well can he refine it, because he very well might be able to make a career out of just bullying and outrunning everyone, but if he’s gonna live up to where he’s drafted then he’s obviously gonna have to hone his craft, his hands needs big work. He could play legit OLB close to 280, he’s that freaky.
walker's for sure going to be a better pro than he was college player (which is a bit scary as a prospect) - but the risk is he very much is a projection because we just didnt get to see many true "edge" rush reps... lots of head up rushing from the 5tech, lots of spiking on stunt calls up front, lots of 3t/2i rushing, lots of spying type calls - but basically never allowed to line up at a 7t or 9t and just attack a tackle's outside shoulder
that and his hands, as you say, and the only worry i have with his hands is that he never really seemed to develop his hands as a pass rusher through his time at georgia... his technique (and lack of counters) with his hands seems to have not really changed from 2020 to 2021
so there's an element of risk to taking him high - but he's also the kind of freaky that he's possibly worth that risk especially if you're picking in the teens in a somewhat uninspiring draft class... because you know he's going to play against the run which means he's going to get on the field so the floor's pretty safe too - so, personally, i think you bet on the upside of his sheer freaky violence
i think the worst case for him is like a more athletic courtney upshaw... and the best case is like a sort of danielle hunter-type where if he senses you dont have the anchor to deal with him, he's just going to dominate you all day with his athletic traits
Davesta
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This PFF dude got us selecting Sauce and Drake Jackson in his 2 round mock draft.
I might feel some type of way if we don’t get OL help with one of our first 2 picks, but we usually do well with mid-round Oline. Imma need to watch some drake Jackson type. Don’t even know who he is.
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2022...rodgers-trades-aidan-hutchinson-first-overall
I might feel some type of way if we don’t get OL help with one of our first 2 picks, but we usually do well with mid-round Oline. Imma need to watch some drake Jackson type. Don’t even know who he is.
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2022...rodgers-trades-aidan-hutchinson-first-overall
that's too early for me for drake jackson - he's too raw for me to take there - i cant really justify taking a guy in the 2nd round who i know from the outset is unlikely to contribute much in year 1 because he's not a good run defender right now and he's also got a pretty bare pass-rush toolkit
but he's traitsy and really young and has some of the best bend of any of the edge guys in the class
not in love with this tackle group after the top 3 tbh and the value in the 2nd round seems to be not great for those tackles (some of whom might have got reached on earlier anyway)
if we love a guy in the 1st or 2nd and they're there, then sure we'll take them but i dont want to reach - this OT class is messy outside of the top 3 so there's no need to reach on one and the IOL class seems really deep on day 2 and early on day 3
tbf to whoever picked for PFF, they put themselves in a tough position with the 46th pick (dont we have the 45th???) with the run on talent the previous 6 or 7 picks lol... brutal to have zion, leal (albeit im not high on him), ebiketie, mccreary, mafe, jones all go just ahead of us (and dax hill somewhere not far ahead either) - that being said i think the way to go would have been to look at phidarian mathis or perrion winfrey there
Davesta
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We got so much ammo.. I hope we use some to move up if those big names mentioned are within reach.
ive still got a load of interesting prospects so will be need to see where they all fit on my board but from the early look of it i doubt our board is gonna get cleaned out by the time we pick in the 2nd - obviously if we've got a 1st round grade one any of those guys then maybe we look to move up but if not then it's highly likely someone we like will fall to that 2nd round pick - the real conundrum is that 14th pick and whether a blue-chip guy gets close or falls to us or whether our "top 10" type prospects all get cleaned out before we pick
i see people (and this is not a shot at you because most of this is on twitter lol) talk about the ammo we've got - and sure it creates opportunity and flexibility which are both really useful qualities to have but we need to get younger... if anything i want to pick more than 10 times albeit ill have to see where i land in terms of overall quantity of draftable prospects at the end of the day
EDC said he expects that we'll be able to pick 9 guys in the top 80 on our board with those first 9 picks - that's a lot of quality young lottery tickets to add to the roster - there's a lot of value in being able to own the 4th round the way we do (especially with that comp 3rd rounder we've got at the end of day 2)
RaineV1
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From Pro Football Network:
14: Zion Johnson, OL, Boston College
45: Travis Jones, DT, UConn
75: Abraham Lucas, OT, Washington State
99: Isaiah Thomas, Edge, Oklahoma
109: Wan'Dale Johnson, WR, Kentucky
118: Jerome Ford, RB, Cincinnati
127: Haskell Garret, DT, Ohio State
139: Cade Mays, OG, Tennessee
141: Tariq Castro-Fields, CB, Penn State
The only pick I don't like is Castro-Fields. Aside from that this is an excellent draft. You could say that's high for Zion Johnson, but he fits the Ravens offense perfectly and plays every spot on the line. He is worth a mid first for the Ravens.
14: Zion Johnson, OL, Boston College
45: Travis Jones, DT, UConn
75: Abraham Lucas, OT, Washington State
99: Isaiah Thomas, Edge, Oklahoma
109: Wan'Dale Johnson, WR, Kentucky
118: Jerome Ford, RB, Cincinnati
127: Haskell Garret, DT, Ohio State
139: Cade Mays, OG, Tennessee
141: Tariq Castro-Fields, CB, Penn State
The only pick I don't like is Castro-Fields. Aside from that this is an excellent draft. You could say that's high for Zion Johnson, but he fits the Ravens offense perfectly and plays every spot on the line. He is worth a mid first for the Ravens.
ive got to say the only pick i particularly like there is travis jones
zion johnson at 14 is a massive reach and i dont think he actually offers any tackle value and he's a projection at best at C... and with Jermaine Johnson, George Karlaftis, Kenyon Green, Devin Lloyd, Andrew Booth all still on the board feels a little crazy to look at Zion - i like zion but he's not someone i'd even start thinking about until very late in the 1st round and that's even in this weak-at-the-top draft class
agree, not a fan of this draft
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kiper's pre-combine mock - not a fan of this lol...
trading down from 14 is fine... albeit i'd probably want more than just a 3rd round comp pick to bother moving down 4 spots
but then missing out on ojabo and walker and taking penning would be completely deflating...
Davesta
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I hope this comes true.
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FINAL 2022 NFL Mock Draft From Brendan Donahue | Sharp Football
NFL Draft Mock for every first-round draft pick for each team, featuring Evan Neal, Ikem Ekwonu & Trayvon Walker. Based on draft needs, available talent, GM tendencies & scheme fits.
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JAAM
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2022 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take big riser after combine, Titans target QB, OL and edge rushers dominate
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2022 NFL Mock Draft: Browns take big riser after combine, Titans target QB, OL and edge rushers dominate
The combine is over and some players really helped themselves with great weeks
yayayayayayaya - 9 of the 10 guys went before we pick but we got 1 of the 2 guys i really really love - any mock that gives us travon in round 1 is gonna be great to me
travon walker going 3rd overall and number 1 EDGE
Charles Cross at 14
fun mock
JAAM
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And this wasn't done by an idiot either lol. I'd be absolutely elated with Cross. Only thing about this mock though is the cupboard is pretty bare if Cross isn't there. Would you rather have Davis or Green at 14?
i would try to get out of the pick if none of the 10 guys i want are there
in lots of mocks at the moment there's normally only 1 guy left when we get to 14... rarely the same guy too
in terms of davis vs green - im really stuck on that one... with lance's draft there i'd probably be thinking about one of those 2 guys or david ojabo
JAAM
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I'm assuming Green, Davis, and Ojabo aren't in your top 10?
in no particular order:
EDGE:
Hutchinson
Johnson
Thibodeaux
Walker
DB:
Gardner
Hamilton
Stingley
OL:
Cross
Ekwonu
Neal
if those guys are gone and I cant trade out of the pick then im looking at Jordan Davis, Kenyon Green, David Ojabo, Devin Lloyd, Daxton Hill, Chris Olave (and maybe some other receivers will be added to this list once i get grades on some of the other consensus top guys) - potentially looking at someone like George Karlaftis or Andrew Booth too... but the fact this list is full of names across multiple position groups is even more of a reason to try and trade down