The Random Thought Thread

[JoeyFlex5]

Am I confident in our WRs? No, but I am excited and feeling glass half full with our guys. Specifically Duv who I think can be productive as a poor mans Deebo.

Makes sense and sounds great in theory but I think a lot of fans are getting ahead of themselves if they think were going to recreate 2019. I am disappointed as this seems like an endorsement of Roman's future with the team.

Deebo is an excellent route runner, and has been since college, duvernay isn’t comparable.

And at face value it might look like an endorsement of the Roman style of offense, but I think it’s more indicative of just not landing a WR they liked. If the Steelers don’t take Calvin Austin 1 pick ahead of us, do we still feel this way? I don’t doubt we’re gonna be extremely frustrated with Roman at times but I wouldn’t like our fourth round to that. We’re just taking what’s on the board

 

[BoredMarine13]

Deebo is an excellent route runner, and has been since college, duvernay isn’t comparable.

And at face value it might look like an endorsement of the Roman style of offense, but I think it’s more indicative of just not landing a WR they liked. If the Steelers don’t take Calvin Austin 1 pick ahead of us, do we still feel this way? I don’t doubt we’re gonna be extremely frustrated with Roman at times but I wouldn’t like our fourth round to that. We’re just taking what’s on the board

I said poor mans Deebo lol . I'm just trying to remain positive with the WRs

 

[Simba]

Deebo is an excellent route runner, and has been since college, duvernay isn’t comparable.

And at face value it might look like an endorsement of the Roman style of offense, but I think it’s more indicative of just not landing a WR they liked. If the Steelers don’t take Calvin Austin 1 pick ahead of us, do we still feel this way? I don’t doubt we’re gonna be extremely frustrated with Roman at times but I wouldn’t like our fourth round to that. We’re just taking what’s on the board

Yeah I mean, were we supposed to take a WR just for the hell of it at that point? Yeah we missed on Austin but these were the guys drafted the rest of the day...

Khalil Shakir
Montrell Washington
Kyle Philips
Jalen Nailor
Mike Woods
Bo Melton
Dareke Young
Samori Toure

Has nothing to do with Roman and more about the position and what was left... which was a whole bunch of nothing

 

[BoredMarine13]

Yeah I mean, were we supposed to take a WR just for the hell of it at that point? Yeah we missed on Austin but these were the guys drafted the rest of the day...

Khalil Shakir
Montrell Washington
Kyle Philips
Jalen Nailor
Mike Woods
Bo Melton
Dareke Young
Samori Toure

Has nothing to do with Roman and more about the position and what was left... which was a whole bunch of nothing

I'm not advocating that we reach for a player, but we were certainly positioned to trade some draft capital to move up and grab a guy. Maybe they didn't like anybody in round 2/3 enough to do that or maybe they had already planned to sign a free agent. But I don't think its farfetched to also assume it could be related to the fact our offensive scheme has thrived previously with subpar wide outs, so they held onto all their 4ths and pilled on the TEs and a punter.

 

[Simba]

I'm not advocating that we reach for a player, but we were certainly positioned to trade some draft capital to move up and grab a guy. Maybe they didn't like anybody in round 2/3 enough to do that or maybe they had already planned to sign a free agent. But I don't think its farfetched to also assume it could be related to the fact our offensive scheme has thrived previously with subpar wide outs, so they held onto all their 4ths and pilled on the TEs and a punter.

Yeah it has nothing to do with the offensive scheme in the sense that we're prioritizing TE over WR. We know by now how this team approaches the draft. It was BPA and they weren't going to reach for a guy they didn't deem worthy. Not even sure who you see in round 3 that was worth trading up for.

 

[Grim]

Yeah it has nothing to do with the offensive scheme in the sense that we're prioritizing TE over WR. We know by now how this team approaches the draft. It was BPA and they weren't going to reach for a guy they didn't deem worthy. Not even sure who you see in round 3 that was worth trading up for.

My guess is Austin since we know in hindsight about the Steelers. I guess for me it will depend on how Likely and Badir turn out since we wouldn’t have gotten either if we did that. Either Austin or Metchie.

 

[purplepittabread88]

Here's the article. It's a good read.

Peter King

One of the best reads in a while wow. Rarely do you ever get to hear that detailed accounts of a draft

 

[Simba]

My guess is Austin since we know in hindsight about the Steelers. I guess for me it will depend on how Likely and Badir turn out since we wouldn’t have gotten either if we did that. Either Austin or Metchie.

Yeah and that one sucks to miss out on because we know we did. But I'd also offer that the likelihood of Stout being in the league 5-8 years from now is significantly higher than Austin. They took a calculated risk and missed but I'd be hard pressed to believe Austin was some solution as opposed to a dart throw.

 

[Grim]

Yeah and that one sucks to miss out on because we know we did. But I'd also offer that the likelihood of Stout being in the league 5-8 years from now is significantly higher than Austin. They took a calculated risk and missed but I'd be hard pressed to believe Austin was some solution as opposed to a dart throw.

No doubt about that. I think unless you're super convinced Austin is a player, you gotta go with what you think is the clear-cut best punter if your current guy isn't getting it done. We all said Koch was getting to end and needed to go (well, OK, not all but some of us are constant antagonists) and I think we upgraded. I see Stout as another defender because he really influences the defense.

Technically for me it comes down to Likely & Badie. If they are both very good and Austin is good, then what we did was better. If you get two players as good then it's better than 1 because who knows what happens. That said, if they bust and Austin is Antonio Brown 2.0, then eh.

 

[Simba]

No doubt about that. I think unless you're super convinced Austin is a player, you gotta go with what you think is the clear-cut best punter if your current guy isn't getting it done. We all said Koch was getting to end and needed to go (well, OK, not all but some of us are constant antagonists) and I think we upgraded. I see Stout as another defender because he really influences the defense.

Technically for me it comes down to Likely & Badie. If they are both very good and Austin is good, then what we did was better. If you get two players as good then it's better than 1 because who knows what happens. That said, if they bust and Austin is Antonio Brown 2.0, then eh.

I think my big thing is that if Austin wasn't a WR, we probably wouldn't care as much. It sucks that we missed but I also don't think we were in love with him. Disappointed to miss out? Sure, I think that's apparent. But I also don't think anyone lost any sleep over it.

 

[drjohnnyfever]

No doubt about that. I think unless you're super convinced Austin is a player, you gotta go with what you think is the clear-cut best punter if your current guy isn't getting it done. We all said Koch was getting to end and needed to go (well, OK, not all but some of us are constant antagonists) and I think we upgraded. I see Stout as another defender because he really influences the defense.

Technically for me it comes down to Likely & Badie. If they are both very good and Austin is good, then what we did was better. If you get two players as good then it's better than 1 because who knows what happens. That said, if they bust and Austin is Antonio Brown 2.0, then eh.

That's how I look at it too. We could have reached for a WR earlier, but we did better, I think, by not doing that. We plugged several holes and added depth and got a potential heir to Koch. That's all huge.

Maybe it's just shock, but I think we look back at this draft the same way the Ogden - Lewis draft is mythologized. We got 4 1st round talents and all of our prospects come before the 150th overall pick. That is astounding!

I can't wait to see what WR's are cut from other teams. I don't see us making a blockbuster trade for one like Deebo or DK. Don't see them doing that before locking up Lamar and I think Bateman is the guy they give the long-term deal to when the time comes. Shipping Hollywood out signaled that to me.

 

[rossihunter2]

One of the best reads in a while wow. Rarely do you ever get to hear that detailed accounts of a draft

king's done that a few times
but never with the Ravens

 

[purplepittabread88]

This is an odd thought I will likely struggle to try and put into words - but something I also think is valid

Related to Hollywood brown, I was rewatching games from last year and he was honestly pretty insane. He had some big plays and great moments. But you know how In hockey playoffs everyone plays much tougher defense? I feel this to be the same with Hollywood. I know he put up stats against the titans in 19 (so did everyone in junk time) but in the other two playoff games, he didn’t really do anything. Titans round 2 we schemed him up hella short passes, but —-/ the point I am trying to get at, is this guy wasn’t a game breaker, or someone who could ever bail lamar out. In situations where teams knew we wanted to go deep, our only chance was praying his midget frame wouldn’t get pushed to the boundary. He did some awesome things but I’m truly glad we aren’t accepting and overpaying him as a #1. It’s only a dream but someone like metcalf or terry is worth paying that 23mil for those reasons to bailout. I’m trying to get across that if people know the ball is going to Hollywood, he’s not getting it. This isn’t true for andrews or even Bateman (catches @browns)

Like I said I know this seems nitpicking, but it’s always something I disliked with him. I felt he only got the ball when he was open (which he is good at) but you would never expect him to do something crazy or to moss someone, and I think our inability to bail Lamar out has cost us multiple playoff games

 

[purplepittabread88]

I have a midterm in a few hours I’m not ready for so I’m ranting randomly, but I just can’t get over how few points we have scored in our playoff games since 18. Even in 18, the 2 tds we put up at the end were almosttt garbage time against a prevent defense (even with this we only managed 17 points). The other games, we scored 6, 20, and 3 points. Funny enough, we were in the same shit show vs the Titans until Lamar went god mode for a 49 yard td run.

I love my ravens, but for us to believe we can be contenders until we can actually score even double digits in the playoffs is laughable. I think that is a fair reason we get so much hate. I know each game has there what went wrong and such, but when you can’t crack 3 touchdowns in a 4 year span with legendary talent, that’s embarrassing. I see getting rid of Hollywood as being the right direction in this, as per the rant above. But do we really expect to be able to suddenly score on top teams with devin duvernay? A guy like Jarvis Landry is my floor for a 2nd option, but wow someone like DK or terry would make me less pessimistic.

 

[purplepittabread88]

Last one: I remember when we traded OBJ and drafted Bateman, I saw it as a trade off between sacrificing some capital in the line in exchange for WR play. I know obj forced his way out, but we took Bateman over Jenkins and figured signing fucking AL was good enough.

This year, we went back on that move, trading a wr for a center. Interesting

 

[rossihunter2]

This is an odd thought I will likely struggle to try and put into words - but something I also think is valid

Related to Hollywood brown, I was rewatching games from last year and he was honestly pretty insane. He had some big plays and great moments. But you know how In hockey playoffs everyone plays much tougher defense? I feel this to be the same with Hollywood. I know he put up stats against the titans in 19 (so did everyone in junk time) but in the other two playoff games, he didn’t really do anything. Titans round 2 we schemed him up hella short passes, but —-/ the point I am trying to get at, is this guy wasn’t a game breaker, or someone who could ever bail lamar out. In situations where teams knew we wanted to go deep, our only chance was praying his midget frame wouldn’t get pushed to the boundary. He did some awesome things but I’m truly glad we aren’t accepting and overpaying him as a #1. It’s only a dream but someone like metcalf or terry is worth paying that 23mil for those reasons to bailout. I’m trying to get across that if people know the ball is going to Hollywood, he’s not getting it. This isn’t true for andrews or even Bateman (catches @browns)

Like I said I know this seems nitpicking, but it’s always something I disliked with him. I felt he only got the ball when he was open (which he is good at) but you would never expect him to do something crazy or to moss someone, and I think our inability to bail Lamar out has cost us multiple playoff games

i dont know that i agree with that at all - feels like what you're talking about here is contested catches where the defence can key on him and get close in coverage - the problem is, in the playoffs, teams have not actually been able to contain hollywood for whole games

hollywood played his best football in the playoffs - had that outrageous catch against the Titans in his first playoff game, absolutely dusted tredavious white in the bills game a couple of times... just didnt get the ball

 

[BoredMarine13]

I have a midterm in a few hours I’m not ready for so I’m ranting randomly, but I just can’t get over how few points we have scored in our playoff games since 18. Even in 18, the 2 tds we put up at the end were almosttt garbage time against a prevent defense (even with this we only managed 17 points). The other games, we scored 6, 20, and 3 points. Funny enough, we were in the same shit show vs the Titans until Lamar went god mode for a 49 yard td run.

I love my ravens, but for us to believe we can be contenders until we can actually score even double digits in the playoffs is laughable. I think that is a fair reason we get so much hate. I know each game has there what went wrong and such, but when you can’t crack 3 touchdowns in a 4 year span with legendary talent, that’s embarrassing. I see getting rid of Hollywood as being the right direction in this, as per the rant above. But do we really expect to be able to suddenly score on top teams with devin duvernay? A guy like Jarvis Landry is my floor for a 2nd option, but wow someone like DK or terry would make me less pessimistic.

lol good luck on the mid term.

 

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[BoredMarine13]

Any Caps fans in the thread getting pumped for tonight's game? I'm hoping they pull the upset for you. Hopefully they fair better than the my Bolts did in Canada.

 

[purplepittabread88]

Any Caps fans in the thread getting pumped for tonight's game? I'm hoping they pull the upset for you. Hopefully they fair better than the my Bolts did in Canada.

As excited as one can be playing the panthers with shit goal tending. Between my ravens, caps, Orioles and cavs, I haven’t got to see a lot of playoff wins these last few years lol