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cobrajet

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and this is the point at which i know you actually don't know how abortion works anywhere in the world including in your own country

no one is aborting "viable" foetuses except in cases of risk to the mother's life or severe risk to health of the mother, severe mental or physical abnormalities in the foetus or in medical emergency...

you've clearly been watching propaganda to come to this opinion

you're also completely wrong about abortion bans in european countries... almost all countries in the EU and Eastern Europe legislate abortions are allowed up until 17 weeks at the least... and in enforceable terms (based in loose readings of mental health stipulations in laws) their bans are actually much laxer even than that... the UK is even later than the rest of europe at 24 weeks

the US followed similar principles regarding ban lengths after roe vs wade as the UK did - rules based in viability... so you are wrong to say you "have pushed far past that as a country"
You seem to think the majority of Americans are good with that. They are not.
 

BoredMarine13

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I think BB a terrible players coach.. shit is like boot camp over there
Whatever he is doing seems to be working well for the last 22 years. The only question is how much of his success was Brady?
 

Deebo813

Hall of Famer
man listen.. by now, yall know im a little off in the head lol..my brain only triggers when it sees problems or when a problem arises… and this over turning of roe vs wade has cause it to tigger.. no debate, its really fucked up… thats all i gotta say
 

cobrajet

Hall of Famer
it wasnt in reference to you or aimed at you

but if the shoe fits...

it wasnt an insult, it was a descriptor of an ideology
There you go….”if the shoe fits”….how could I not that that personally? I figured since the title of this thread is The Random Thought Thread, the tread was safe to have some friendly debate as long as it remains respectful, but IMHO, you are very intolerant to those who have opposite political views. As a moderator, I would think you would try to be careful to remain respectful. Since this is supposed to be a friendly site, I would always do my best to refrain from any perceived personal attacks.
 

BoredMarine13

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I seem to have missed a lot in just one day. Good to see our message board simp Rossi is still saving the world one post at a time
 

BoredMarine13

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WTF was that random MAGA here for lol. Things heating up in the “Random Thought”
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
Moderator
There you go….”if the shoe fits”….how could I not that that personally? I figured since the title of this thread is The Random Thought Thread, the tread was safe to have some friendly debate as long as it remains respectful, but IMHO, you are very intolerant to those who have opposite political views. As a moderator, I would think you would try to be careful to remain respectful. Since this is supposed to be a friendly site, I would always do my best to refrain from any perceived personal attacks.

im intolerant of intolerance
 

BoredMarine13

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drjohnnyfever

Pro Bowler
@rossihunter2 isn't wrong though. The US separated Church and State back in 1833. This pushes everything back to the states to impose their will on the vast majority who are against this ruling. We are absolutely stepping back into the 50s with this ruling and what is next.....this is just the beginning.

That goes both ways tho. Taxpayer funded and why should it be?

...and this is why this issue needs to go thru the Constitutional Amendment process instead of leaving it murky in court decisions and legislation that would be equally murky and would likely reconstitute Roe in large measure.

With the Court overturning Roe, they don't really change anything immediately that has been going on practice-wise in states. Some have been more harsh and others have been lenient with restrictions and those have either been ignored, struck down, or amended by the USSC. But in practice, you have vigilante centers that allow all terminations which are extremest and on the other end no terminations. What states need to do is start writing their own statutes. Heartbeat Bills and such will never survive legislative muster, just as anytime prior to birth would be. The Court has held the line with Roe and with this decision - more than anything - has decided that we can no longer continue to hold the line on this.

It was never a Constitutional right. It may be a human right, but it was never recognized that way in the US, but it was permitted thru Roe. It's now time - and you can say that we are regressing, but that's not true - for states to do their conscience legislatively to solve the problem. The Electorate will decide if they are working in the right direction or not. What has been done for 40 years is Congress kicking the can down the road and enjoying the spoils of serving while the Court has tried to make sense of reproductive rights in a vastly different world than when Roe was initially decided. Realistically, the old, white, out-of-touch, racist, elitist, and entitled Justices that formulated the trimester system, that was developed in a bipartisan way in deciding Roe, has done pretty well and guided us thru tremendous medical advances and secular beliefs for a damn long time and should be shown a bit of respect. What would you give today to go back to it?!

And this is yet another argument for term limits. Serving as a legislator is not a JOB; it's a service. It's legislators' turn to assume their real role and create law that is meaningful and fair for the people they represent. US!
 

BoredMarine13

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And this is yet another argument for term limits. Serving as a legislator is not a JOB; it's a service. It's legislators' turn to assume their real role and create law that is meaningful and fair for the people they represent. US!
But how would they make millions through insider trading if they only had four years?
 

BoredMarine13

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I’m sorry but lumping all Christian pro lifers in with death cults is far out of line and I don’t give a shit who said it
The religion is to blame narrative is a feeble argument made by douche bags on the far left. I’m pro life for the most part and I havent stepped foot in a church, with the exception being weddings, since I was in middle school. Maybe it’s not about religion and I just happen to think late term abortions are pretty fucked up decision made by cowards. Or maybe I’m just really pumped that I have an adopted son and the thought of his mother who gave him up to us not doing that breaks my heart. Or, and here’s a crazy stance, the best way to handle this is to find the happy median, something like abortions are allowed up to the start of the second trimester , after that it should be used only for medical emergencies. We should also be pumping birth control ( for free) to the general public because those morons keep procreating.
 

BoredMarine13

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Also, shut the hell up about guys not having a say. Last I checked, women can’t magically fertilize and egg by themselves. Your body your choice until you ask someone to shove a penis in it repeatedly.
 

redrum52

Hall of Famer
Also, shut the hell up about guys not having a say. Last I checked, women can’t magically fertilize and egg by themselves. Your body your choice until you ask someone to shove a penis in it repeatedly.
This is where I disagree( I think). You say guys not having a say then shoving peni repeatedly after an egg comment, which I dont think men have.

The second that happens they're the only one with a choice and can choose to hold a man monetarily responsible. A mother wants to keep a kid and the father doesn't and is willing to help with the abortion, he shouldn't have to take care of that kid financially. If the woman wanted to have an abortion do the fathers have a say in keeping the child? This was my reference earlier.


I still say abortion, church, and politics are a lot less divisive than a good ol fashioned Flacco thread.
 

BoredMarine13

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This is where I disagree( I think). You say guys not having a say then shoving peni repeatedly after an egg comment, which I dont think men have.
Lol yes I’m pretty sure we do agree.
I was saying Women(are we still allowed to say that?) have eggs that can’t magically fertilize on their own. Hence my body my choice ……until they need a male . That little clump of cells is not possible without a male and they deserve a say, especially if as you point out, they can be held financially liable.
 

Old Bay

Veteran
Lol yes I’m pretty sure we do agree.
I was saying Women(are we still allowed to say that?) have eggs that can’t magically fertilize on their own. Hence my body my choice ……until they need a male . That little clump of cells is not possible without a male and they deserve a say, especially if as you point out, they can be held financially liable.
Pretty sure the term is "birthing people" now
 

BoredMarine13

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Pretty sure the term is "birthing people" now
Don’t forget chest feeding people because men can breast feed as well
 
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