The 1st half, The Refs and The Collapse

[UPennChem]

I don’t get why so many people can’t see an absolute meltdown lol, when it’s Kyle hamilton missing an assignment in week 2 he’s a bust, but when our first rounders in years 2 and 3 blow plays this badly it’s the coaches? Nah.

So hard to understand how something like this is even possible.

 

[OURavensFan]

I kind of laughed at Peters getting upset. Like, really, what are you mad about? Why don't you just stop them from scoring? You should be mad that the defense didn't do that, at all, for like 5/6 drives.

Can be mad that the offense did nothing for close to 3 quarters, but can't be mad that John didn't trust you and that you validated his lack of trust by giving up an 80 yard game winning drive to end the game.

Yea I definitely agree, Shannon Sharpe was giving him crap for it. But if the 4th down decisions , rightfully or not, are losing some of the veterans on defense (probably just Peters), that is not good. He was probably mad they just turned it over and didn’t pin them at the 2, and he didn’t want to yell at Lamar so he took it out on John.

 

[rossihunter2]

No the issue with him has been losing contain and totally failing to bring QBs down when he has the opportunity to do so. Especially in critical situations. Like it would be one thing to be kinda low stat if he made a few splash plays here and there. But outside of the one strip (which is great) last game, he's been silent. Constant loses when rushing. Especially the spin the move. Then when he does win, again sometimes in critical situations, he just doesn't bring the QB down. Each of those times going for chain moving 3rd downs. He has like 4 or more of those this year.

He has like 3 on the year but most were in this game.

For context, Josh Allen per carry is the 2nd toughest to tackle ball carrier in the NFL behind only Deebo Samuel

Obviously you want oweh to make those plays but there’s a reason Allen’s viewed the way he is and it’s because he does this to everyone

 

[OURavensFan]

I feel like the idea of a fg winning it completely hinges on another fluke turnover thanks to the weather, problem is I don’t think we could’ve executed even if they gave us the opportunity.

The defense flat out choked and I don’t blame the coaches, the offense flat out choked and I don’t blame the coaches. This was a really shit game from both sides for 3 quarters. I think the players were bound to lose it no matter what the coaches did, they lost their ability to execute midway through the second, for whatever reason, but they had a million chances to put the game away with just a few routine tackles and a pick that hit us square in both hands, and they blew all of them.

I don’t get why so many people can’t see an absolute meltdown lol, when it’s Kyle hamilton missing an assignment in week 2 he’s a bust, but when our first rounders in years 2 and 3 blow plays this badly it’s the coaches? Nah.

Dude Queen has got to catch those, two weeks in a row

 

[rossihunter2]

Need to contain Trey Hendrickson speed rush too, and not sure I trust our big guy to handle it

I trust him against Hendrickson more than I did against Von Miller though

 

[rossihunter2]

I kind of laughed at Peters getting upset. Like, really, what are you mad about? Why don't you just stop them from scoring? You should be mad that the defense didn't do that, at all, for like 5/6 drives.

Can be mad that the offense did nothing for close to 3 quarters, but can't be mad that John didn't trust you and that you validated his lack of trust by giving up an 80 yard game winning drive to end the game.

Do we actually know what he was mad about?

 

[rossihunter2]

Yea I definitely agree, Shannon Sharpe was giving him crap for it. But if the 4th down decisions , rightfully or not, are losing some of the veterans on defense (probably just Peters), that is not good. He was probably mad they just turned it over and didn’t pin them at the 2, and he didn’t want to yell at Lamar so he took it out on John.

That’s patently false though. Marlo and Andrews were the first guys to talk about the decision and were both 100% for it

We don’t even know that’s what peters was angry about

 

[OURavensFan]

That’s patently false though. Marlo and Andrews were the first guys to talk about the decision and were both 100% for it

We don’t even know that’s what peters was angry about

Well of course they are, flashbacks to Andrews consoling Harbaugh after the Packers game. Yea I agree, we don’t know what they were arguing about, I think Peters gets a pick six against the Bengals

 

[Deebo813]

He has like 3 on the year but most were in this game.

For context, Josh Allen per carry is the 2nd toughest to tackle ball carrier in the NFL behind only Deebo Samuel

Obviously you want oweh to make those plays but there’s a reason Allen’s viewed the way he is and it’s because he does this to everyone

They really have a stat for that lol wtf

 

[allblackraven]

Do we actually know what he was mad about?

No but Harbaugh still loves him and hopes Juice loves him back.

 

[JAAM]

So are we all in agreement that Queen won’t be getting a second contract here

 

[D1City55]

So are we all in agreement that Queen won’t be getting a second contract here

At this rate I would be suprised if the team either doesn't select an ILB in the first two rounds or persue one in FA. Queen was having a solid season before last game but a every down ILB(Though hard to find) would do so much for this defense and those would require an early investment or us breaking the bank.

 

[allblackraven]

So are we all in agreement that Queen won’t be getting a second contract here

I feel like 5th year option is not going to be picked up on him.

 

[JO_75]

At this rate I would be suprised if the team either doesn't select an ILB in the first two rounds or persue one in FA. Queen was having a solid season before last game but a every down ILB(Though hard to find) would do so much for this defense and those would require an early investment or us breaking the bank.

Should have drafted Nakobe Dean instead of Travis Jones. As soon as Wagner turned us down, Dean should have been a priority in the Draft.

 

[allblackraven]

Should have drafted Nakobe Dean instead of Travis Jones. As soon as Wagner turned us down, Dean should have been a priority in the Draft.

No way.

 

[rossihunter2]

They really have a stat for that lol wtf

Yeah it’s just broken tackles and missed tackles forced accumulated together and then adjusted into a per carry rate

 

[rmcjacket23]

So are we all in agreement that Queen won’t be getting a second contract here

I'd give him a second contract. Just as a complementary/depth linebacker and not for a high price tag. No way I'm paying him as a 3 down linebacker.

 

[RavensMania]

No the issue with him has been losing contain and totally failing to bring QBs down when he has the opportunity to do so. Especially in critical situations. Like it would be one thing to be kinda low stat if he made a few splash plays here and there. But outside of the one strip (which is great) last game, he's been silent. Constant loses when rushing. Especially the spin the move. Then when he does win, again sometimes in critical situations, he just doesn't bring the QB down. Each of those times going for chain moving 3rd downs. He has like 4 or more of those this year.

Allen does that to players all the time. Yes he lost contain and they were bad but it was a good play by Allen also.

 

[BoredMarine13]

did he have a bad game though?
he had a bunch of pressures, a sack and a turnover, nearly had a second turnover there too

i get that people are disappointed with him, but it's got ridiculous - he just had a great sack in week 4, which is what people have been asking for but now that he didnt get 3 and 2 strips people are even more out than they were last week

i get that almost doesnt mean anything in the accounting at the end but that doesnt erase everything else that happened

Yea I think he had a poor game and underwhelming start to the season for a guy whos showed alot of promise. Is that related to playing out of position some, lack of talent around him, to many snaps etc etc etc.... Yes, yes, and yes. But I still expect our top draft picks to make those big plays in the moment and he has not this year. Add in the 10 guys on the defense clearly knew not to tackle the ball carrier but Oweh seemed not to be on the same page. Mental mistakes, which tbf is a reoccurring theme with this defense. Always seems to be just one guy not on the same page

 

[BoredMarine13]

I kind of laughed at Peters getting upset. Like, really, what are you mad about? Why don't you just stop them from scoring? You should be mad that the defense didn't do that, at all, for like 5/6 drives.

Can be mad that the offense did nothing for close to 3 quarters, but can't be mad that John didn't trust you and that you validated his lack of trust by giving up an 80 yard game winning drive to end the game.

I think there was more going on than this. We just don't know the details yet. I have no issues with Peters actions, I don't agree with it based on what we know, but he is a fiery guy. Not a bad thing to have someone like that on your team if he can make amends and move forward as I'm sure they will.