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The Running Game, The 4th Quarter and Everyone's Blood Pressure

Linderbaum looks incredible getting downfield to lead block. He’s so athletic he moves like a TE, and he’s always in the best position to lead block
His stat line is impressive so far. Especially for a rookie center. He’s played 100% of snaps and only 3 penalties. Also don’t think he’s been charged with a sack so far. Definitely a keeper.
 

UPennChem

Hall of Famer
Guys, I just can't defend that the fact that Ricard played 88% of the plays this game. I'm gonna go back and see if I can find what percentage of the snaps Leach played for our superbowl team. There's no way it was even 50% imo.

Likely had 7 snaps
Proche had 8 snaps
Boyle had 9 snaps

Im fairly certain these snaps counts include STs meaning these three did not get any playing time whatsoever. Maybe that's ok Boyle... But idk this offense is extremely limited.

Also DRob with his lowest snap count of the season at 15. Wallace was inactive.

The Ravens are completely running a 1 WR at a time offense just swapping Bateman and Duv.

EDIT: Leach played 41% of the snaps for the season. Ricard is constantly towing the line between a little less than double that or a little more than double that.
 
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rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
Guys, I just can't defend that the fact that Ricard played 88% of the plays this game. I'm gonna go back and see if I can find what percentage of the snaps Leach played for our superbowl team. There's no way it was even 50% imo.

Likely had 7 snaps
Proche had 8 snaps
Boyle had 9 snaps

Im fairly certain these snaps counts include STs meaning these three did not get any playing time whatsoever. Maybe that's ok Boyle... But idk this offense is extremely limited.

Also DRob with his lowest snap count of the season at 15. Wallace was inactive.

The Ravens are completely running a 1 WR at a time offense just swapping Bateman and Duv.

EDIT: Leach played 41% of the snaps for the season. Ricard is constantly towing the line between a little less than double that or a little more than double that.
OK, but the game plan was clearly to run the ball a lot, and we were successful at it. So why is it a problem he played so much? You also don't really have a true "blocking TE" on the roster, though Oliver is improving. Boyle clearly can't play that role anymore, otherwise he'd probably be playing more and Ricard less.

You show me a game with a pass-heavy gameplan, and a game where we're trailing, with Ricard playing 80-90%, and then I'll agree, its a problem. He hovered between 60-70% consistently for the first five weeks.
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
Guys, I just can't defend that the fact that Ricard played 88% of the plays this game. I'm gonna go back and see if I can find what percentage of the snaps Leach played for our superbowl team. There's no way it was even 50% imo.

Likely had 7 snaps
Proche had 8 snaps
Boyle had 9 snaps

Im fairly certain these snaps counts include STs meaning these three did not get any playing time whatsoever. Maybe that's ok Boyle... But idk this offense is extremely limited.

Also DRob with his lowest snap count of the season at 15. Wallace was inactive.

The Ravens are completely running a 1 WR at a time offense just swapping Bateman and Duv.

EDIT: Leach played 41% of the snaps for the season. Ricard is constantly towing the line between a little less than double that or a little more than double that.
Also those snaps exclude ST, so those are offensive snaps for those three players.
Was pretty obvious what the game plan was, considering Oliver played nearly 50% of the snaps (31).
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
For defensive snaps, I really like the distribution a lot more now. It's clear once you get a bit healthier, you can get fresher guys out there.

Campbell and JPP still probably playing a little more in terms of snap counts than I'd like (both were in the 60-70% range), but like Oweh was down closer to 55%, and they eased Houston back in with only 16 snaps. Pass rush unit clearly is fresher with a rotation, and that'll only help later in the year.
Once you get Bowser back, he can play a lot more pass-coverage snaps, and JPP will probably not play as much. If you can get a rotation where a lot of these guys are playing 50-60% range, they'll be a lot fresher later in the game and later in the season. Was pretty clear that benefited Houston a ton on Sunday.

Also, on the negative side, gotta say I'm quite a bit disappointed that we're not getting more out of Stephens. He played only 3 defensive snaps all game yesterday. He's clearly behind Pepe as the #3 Corner, and its also clear he's not in the Safety mix either, since Hamilton played a lot more than him and Stone was an every-down player.
 

UPennChem

Hall of Famer
OK, but the game plan was clearly to run the ball a lot, and we were successful at it. So why is it a problem he played so much? You also don't really have a true "blocking TE" on the roster, though Oliver is improving. Boyle clearly can't play that role anymore, otherwise he'd probably be playing more and Ricard less.

You show me a game with a pass-heavy gameplan, and a game where we're trailing, with Ricard playing 80-90%, and then I'll agree, its a problem. He hovered between 60-70% consistently for the first five weeks.
I really don't know why I have to argue this.

Ricard certainly helps in the run game unquestionably. Was that run game historic in any way? Was it even close to a 2019 run game? Has there been a single game this year with a truly over the top good running game where you could probably in good faith justify being a run first team like in 2019? The answer is no and it's been no for over a year.

Many many many other teams can achieve the level of running quality that we've put out recently without a full back at all. It's not even a position the league as whole really even uses. So then you look at Ricard in particular and at his lowest usage rate he's at 60% corresponding to 1.5x use of Vonta Leach (an offense which has time and time again said to have leaned heavily on the run game and defense) and at most basically every single snap easily surpassing 2x Leach.

It is to me totally unjustifiable to be running this type of offense in 2022. It really worked in 2019. It was serviceable in 2020. It was not good in 2021. It is not good in 2022.
 

rmcjacket23

Ravens Ring of Honor
I really don't know why I have to argue this.

Ricard certainly helps in the run game unquestionably. Was that run game historic in any way? Was it even close to a 2019 run game? Has there been a single game this year with a truly over the top good running game where you could probably in good faith justify being a run first team like in 2019? The answer is no and it's been no for over a year.

Many many many other teams can achieve the level of running quality that we've put out recently without a full back at all. It's not even a position the league as whole really even uses. So then you look at Ricard in particular and at his lowest usage rate he's at 60% corresponding to 1.5x use of Vonta Leach (an offense which has time and time again said to have leaned heavily on the run game and defense) and at most basically every single snap easily surpassing 2x Leach.

It is to me totally unjustifiable to be running this type of offense in 2022. It really worked in 2019. It was serviceable in 2020. It was not good in 2021. It is not good in 2022.
I mean, I'd have to look at the analytics, BUT, I'd say its a product of how you shaped your offensive line. I don't think this Oline is anywhere close to the run blocking unit you saw in 2019 or even 2020. I think this unit is significantly improved in pass protection, and designed that way.

So I'm not sure taking extra blockers off the field in exchange for a third receiver is going to make the running game work at all. Like you saw last year what the running game looks like with bad run blocking and worse RBs. It's basically "Lamar/Huntley, go make plays", which doesn't work either.

Also pretty clear that this team isn't anywhere close to being a team that should be running base-3 WR sets either. Defenses will eat us alive in that scenario, because they know they can win man coverage frequently, and they don't have to load the box to stop the run either.

I personally find it refreshing (though possibly not sustainable), largely because pretty much every NFL defense, including our own, is built to stop the pass these days. Most teams are playing variations of Cover 2 with deep safeties, not giving up big plays in the passing game, and daring people to run on them. And we're obliging.
We just need to be more efficient in the passing game, utilize play action more, and give some better looks. Screen passes, deep shots, etc. We're clearly not very creative with route concepts.
 

redrum52

Hall of Famer
I really don't know why I have to argue this.

Ricard certainly helps in the run game unquestionably. Was that run game historic in any way? Was it even close to a 2019 run game? Has there been a single game this year with a truly over the top good running game where you could probably in good faith justify being a run first team like in 2019? The answer is no and it's been no for over a year.

Many many many other teams can achieve the level of running quality that we've put out recently without a full back at all. It's not even a position the league as whole really even uses. So then you look at Ricard in particular and at his lowest usage rate he's at 60% corresponding to 1.5x use of Vonta Leach (an offense which has time and time again said to have leaned heavily on the run game and defense) and at most basically every single snap easily surpassing 2x Leach.

It is to me totally unjustifiable to be running this type of offense in 2022. It really worked in 2019. It was serviceable in 2020. It was not good in 2021. It is not good in 2022.

This is what I've tried stressing when I said I don't fuck with Roman. Why does it seem we can't run the ball well in a traditional method?
 
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