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Calling all armchair GMs

Discussion in 'Ravens Talk' started by redrum52, May 1, 2019.

  1. JoeyFlex5

    JoeyFlex5 Hall of Famer

    Couple of “I told ya so” guys(prospects who were retardedly hyped here and I told everyone they wouldn’t be shit)

    Shane Ray
    Ameer Abdullah
    Karl Joseph
    Josh doctson
    Reggie Ragland
    Kevin white
    Trae waynes
     
  2. rossihunter2

    rossihunter2 Staff Member Moderator

    kevin white was a huge miss for me
     
  3. rossihunter2

    rossihunter2 Staff Member Moderator

    im going back through old big boards lol (ive only kept the boards etc. from 2017 onwards):

    2017 biggest hits:
    • Juju
    • Ahkello Witherspoon
    • Desmond King
    • Alvin kamara
    • Corey Davis
    2017 biggest misses (im including players i was way too low on too for posterity)
    • Pat Mahomes (too low)
    • Deshaun Watson (too low)
    • Isaiah Ford
    • Forrest Lamp
    2018 biggest hits:
    • Baker Mayfield
    • Lamar Jackson
    • Harold Landry
    • Anthony Miller
    • Orlando Brown Jr
    • Will Hernandez
    2018 biggest misses (...):
    • Equanimeous St Brown
    • James Washington
    • Frank Ragnow (too low)
    • Nick Chubb (too low)
    • Josh Rosen (maybe???)

    and based off memory here are some misses from 2016:
    • Noah Spence
    • Sua Cravens
    • Kevin Dodd
    and a couple of hits from 2016 also:
    • Kevin Byard
    • Yannick Ngakoue
    • Matt Judon
    2015 (not gonna bother with hits here coz i think a lot of people had the same sort of hits for 2015 as i did - marcus peters etc.)
    • kevin white
    • dorial green beckham
    • maxx williams
    • Eli harold
    • Jaelen strong
     
  4. JoeyFlex5

    JoeyFlex5 Hall of Famer

    before drafting him, i didnt like perriman, and had kevin white and perriman as near clones. white was another straight line burner with poor change of direction on film and struggled to use his size, i actually thought perriman was better at the contested catch than white, because perriman would be the aggressor a bit more, while white was what i like to call, a fadeaway catcher. he would make some nice looking catches by facing the ball and catching it like a fadeaway shot in basketball, he would turn and spring backwards with a step of separation and make a catch that truthfully couldve/shouldve been caught over the shoulder. a lot of people mix these up with "attacking" the ball or contested catches. josh doctson was another one who did this and got a lot of hype as a contested catch guy, but didnt pan out because in reality he was either laying out for overthrown balls(tbf he did this very well and its not a bad trait at all) or fadeaway catching.

    contested catch, thats dez bryant, larry fitzgerald, alshon jeffrey, anquan boldin, deandre hopkins, megatron, julio, these guys arent laying out for balls that the qb put too much steam on, they come back to the ball and outman the db in the air whos playing it from a good position. yet guys like kevin white and josh doctson always generate hype and never live up to it, because their catches look nice but really theyre just extending dramatically. JJ arcega whiteside is a guy that im pounding the table on saying hes gonna pan out, because he is THE aggressor and dbs just cant stop him from catching it.
     
  5. rossihunter2

    rossihunter2 Staff Member Moderator

    tbf to josh doctson he's awful at most of the skills a receiver needs in the nfl but he's become one of the most reliable jump-ball/contested catch receivers around lol - it's like that's the one college skill he had that actually translated to the nfl - it's just a shame he cant really do anything else lol
     
  6. DeVito52

    DeVito52 Ravens Ring of Honor

    Kevin white gets a big asterisk with his injuries. Who knows, he could’ve been a really good player.
     
  7. redrum52

    redrum52 MVP

    Speaking of injuries, I liked the Kindle pick.

    I just googled him and the irony that his dad's name is Johnny Walker. This shit writes itself.
     
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  8. rossihunter2

    rossihunter2 Staff Member Moderator

    ive learnt a lot since then in terms of evaluating talent and honestly it was just a complete misevaluation by me at the time - in hindsight i wouldnt have touched him with a ten foot pole - he was a size-speed project who flew up draft boards for the physical attributes and i think i mostly had him that high because i wanted to be contrarian about amari cooper
     
  9. RavensMania

    RavensMania Staff Member Administrator

    but I'm always right. I'll have to check back another time. This is the first time I've been on the site since last Thursday. My mom passed away on Friday (1:30am).
     
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  10. RL52TheGreatest

    RL52TheGreatest Pro Bowler

    Sorry for your loss, man. Mine passed away about 3 years ago so I know what you're going through.
     
  11. Please accept my condolences. It is hard to lose one's mother and I know how it feels personally.
     
  12. All I want to know is if your list of 'i told ya so' prospects that actually became NFL stars is bigger than this list? Keep us all posted!
     
  13. Ludy51

    Ludy51 Ravens Ring of Honor

    I’m sorry for your loss.
     
  14. DeVito52

    DeVito52 Ravens Ring of Honor

    I’m sorry to hear that man. Hope you’re doing well.
     
  15. JoeyFlex5

    JoeyFlex5 Hall of Famer

    Very sorry to hear this, sorry for your loss man
     
  16. arnie_uk

    arnie_uk Veteran

    Greg robinson - donald obj and him were 1 2 3 that year

    Mike Evans - thought he'd be awful

    Art brown - thought he'd class

    John ross - thought he'd be great
     
  17. Willbacker

    Willbacker Pro Bowler

    Sorry to hear this RM. I wish you and your family the best.
     
  18. JoeyFlex5

    JoeyFlex5 Hall of Famer

    yeah i thought mike evans was a guaranteed bust myself. hes like the only receiver of his type that seems to have succeeded, he lacks a whole lot of what a NFL receiver needs but he is so physically dominant like on another level beyond any other big bodied guy that he can win with just that.
     
  19. Tank

    Tank Ravens Ring of Honor

    I remember @flynismo was pounding the table for Mike Evans, but I think even he was surprised he went so early.
     
  20. Davesta

    Davesta Veteran

    I prayed to the NFL gods “anyone but perriman..” sure enough..
     

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