i'm gonna need to see lemon's testing before im convinced he's anything special
also think his role within the ravens offence would be
i think he's a good prospect, but not sure he's someone i'd love at 14
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2026 NFL Draft General Discussion
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i'm gonna need to see lemon's testing before im convinced he's anything special
also think his role within the ravens offence would be
i think he's a good prospect, but not sure he's someone i'd love at 14
Sooky
MVP
First time I have popped in the NFL draft section here this year. Surprised people are high on Bain. He looks like an absolutely freak, but his short arms scare me.
Last 10 drafts, only one guys has a sack with less than 31 inch arms.
If he ended up being our pick somehow, I would probably talk myself into it with Minter and Weaver, but holy shit that scares me.
Last 10 drafts, only one guys has a sack with less than 31 inch arms.
If he ended up being our pick somehow, I would probably talk myself into it with Minter and Weaver, but holy shit that scares me.
Im scared of bain too but then again idk lol. We can say the short arms dont matter but they really do. Im sure bain was a better prospect than the other 10 guys you mentioned but i think 31 inch arms is still something you gotta be worried about
UKRaven1827
Practice Squad
Understand why it's a concern of course but if you are going to have short arms you gotta know how win with them. Bain knows how to win with them.
When I watch the guy play I see someone who wins. Short arms or not. He is fast, he is violent, he is versatile. Id bet on him to break the rule.
the question for me would be, based on the tape, do you think an extra 1.5 inches of arm length is making a difference to his game?
you watch certain guys get out-leveraged but it doesnt happen with Bain
DJ said he spoke to a bunch of DCs around the league and they said the main concern with the arm length is finishing
i get that thresholds exist for a reason - and that chasing outliers is bad process - but in this case it doesnt feel like chasing
if it wasnt for people telling me he had short arms, i would never have guessed it based on the tape
whereas there's so many IOL (for example) where i watch like 3 plays and instantly go and check their arm length measurement because it looks like they're getting out-leveraged and i want to check if it's physical or technical (or both)
never did that once with Bain's tape
the way i'd put it is this way: if his arm was 1.5 inches longer, no one would have any concerns about him as a top 2 prospect in the class - but because of 1.5 inches we're now supposed to be concerned about him at 14...
Grim
Ravens Ring of Honor
I was going to say this but you beat me to the punch
The only reason we would even have a shot at Bain is due to his arm length. It may not matter even with the arm length. But this guy is a good one.
Baltimorican
Pro Bowler
What about the Oregon TE? Where does he fit in as a possibility at #14. If you answered already and I missed it sorry.
I never knew he had short arms neither lol.. when i first saw him i thought he was good then as time went on, im wondering why he isnt considered a top 3 pick
Ellicottraven
Ravens Ring of Honor
He ran a 4.54 today!
Id be happy with him at 14 but he isnt dropping that far.. personally, i dnt really care about the arm length thing till they start saying shit like “ no player in nfl history with 30 inch arms has ever made the probowl” lol. Thats the shit gives me doubts but then the tape shows he dont have any problems… also, if it was real problem, there would be like viral clips of him struggling vs tackles who have really long arms. Im sure someone wouldve found some tape by now
Id love bain jr, tyson and love for sure.i dnt think love making it to our pick.. i can actually see tate making it
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Aptly named with his zesty ass
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
I thought the main concern would be beating blocks. Pro tackles are all long and with really long arms. That said, I think I'd be over the moon if we can land him at 14.
for me he doesnt
if you're going to be 240lbs or less as a TE in the NFL you'd better be an elite receiving threat like Brock Bowers (who also can't block for shit in the NFL in-line)
and while he tested like crazy, he'll need to do the agilities to show that he's a freak who can work laterally at the top of routes to retain separation (stopping and redirecting all that momentum at 240lbs is tough) - you could see on tape that he's an exceptional linear athlete but who's a straight-line athlete - the athletic testing doesnt really show up on the tape even if you can see he's an athlete
for me he's a 2nd round guy who's basically a bigger power-slot WR who can block better than a typical slot
that time's absolutely fine
he wins vertically with route stems - he's not a blazing speedster on film
4.53 plays
id be more worried about him coming in at 193lbs as a guy who might be playing "x" for some teams - i'd assumed he'd come in lighter to run a fast 40 time tbh
reminds me of Tee Higgins coming out
it's bad process to chase outliers
but outliers do happen for exactly these kinds of reasons
the thresholds are informative, not definitive
i think there's an understanding that you can beat blocks in different ways - bain's style of play makes the leverage at the LoS less of an issue, if he was constantly trying to win with high-side speed rushes working to clear hands off him then it would be more concerning (like with cashius howell)