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[JO_75]

https://twitter.com/NFLfootballinfo/status/1197602290976382980

pretty sure that's not allowed per NFL rules to give a non-finite suspension

In a way, it's a 6 game suspension masquerading as a indefinite suspension. If the indefinite suspension goes into next season then we'll find out how indefinite the suspension is.

So Pouncey will miss this week's game against the Bengals and the grudge match with the Browns and will return for the Cardinals game.

 

[JO_75]

Sheldon Richardson was asked if Garrett had mentioned what Rudolph said and didn't even know about it.


Jake Trotter @Jake_Trotter 1h

I asked Browns DT Sheldon Richardson if Myles Garrett had ever told him what Garrett alleged about Rudolph in the hearing. Richardson said he hadn’t and said my question was the first he’d even heard about it.

 

[RavensMania]

Sheldon Richardson was asked if Garrett had mentioned what Rudolph said and didn't even know about it.


Jake Trotter @Jake_Trotter 1h

I asked Browns DT Sheldon Richardson if Myles Garrett had ever told him what Garrett alleged about Rudolph in the hearing. Richardson said he hadn’t and said my question was the first he’d even heard about it.

Garrett's a liar also, huh. Goodell will suspend him for another indefinite year...

 

[rossihunter2]

In a way, it's a 6 game suspension masquerading as a indefinite suspension. If the indefinite suspension goes into next season then we'll find out how indefinite the suspension is.

So Pouncey will miss this week's game against the Bengals and the grudge match with the Browns and will return for the Cardinals game.

right but there's now been an appeal that was upheld - this should have been the vehicle for the setting of those finite limits be that a season, 10 games or 6 games or whatever it is - as it stands this appeal has just thrown garrett out of the league with no obvious recourse

 

[RavensMania]

right but there's now been an appeal that was upheld - this should have been the vehicle for the setting of those finite limits be that a season, 10 games or 6 games or whatever it is - as it stands this appeal has just thrown garrett out of the league with no obvious recourse

interesting way of looking at it, but I think he plays at the beginning of the season or maybe misses another 4 games at most, in 2020

 

[rossihunter2]

interesting way of looking at it, but I think he plays at the beginning of the season or maybe misses another 4 games at most, in 2020

right but there's no vehicle for that to happen - unless he appeals to a higher authority? there are now apparently 2 legal issues here:

https://twitter.com/RulingSports/status/1197612140300918784

 

[rossihunter2]

--The CBA states you can’t suspend a player indefinitely for an in-game act

 

[allblackraven]

they've put people on the commissioner's exempt list but with the idea that recuperation and reinstatement was a possibility
they have upheld here an indefinite suspension which is unprecedented and im pretty sure is against their penal guidelines

What it was upheld against is also unprecedented. Punishment fits the crime.

 

[allblackraven]

maybe but it doesnt look like that has helped him anyway...

Thankfully, since it was obvious bullshit.

 

[rossihunter2]

What it was upheld against is also unprecedented. Punishment fits the crime.

it also breaks the rules of the CBA - im not saying he shouldnt be suspended but he should be suspended for a finite period of time

 

[redrum52]

--The CBA states you can’t suspend a player indefinitely for an in-game act

This is what I thought too initially and why I thought Garrett had a chance of winning... BUT doesn't the CBA basically also grant Goodell final say over punishment?

 

[rossihunter2]

This is what I thought too initially and why I thought Garrett had a chance of winning... BUT doesn't the CBA basically also grant Goodell final say over punishment?

it does - but i think that's in the case where it doesnt supersede other things in the cba but maybe im wrong

 

[allblackraven]

it also breaks the rules of the CBA - im not saying he shouldnt be suspended but he should be suspended for a finite period of time

I get that but can't common sense prevail under circumstances? This gives everybody enough time to get it right. Let's be honest - it was never going to be less than 6 games - I see no problems with calling it indefinite.

 

[rossihunter2]

I get that but can't common sense prevail under circumstances? This gives everybody enough time to get it right. Let's be honest - it was never going to be less than 6 games - I see no problems with calling it indefinite.

i dont get why it has to be either 6 games or indefinite though?

 

[allblackraven]

i dont get why it has to be either 6 games or indefinite though?

6 is the number of games left in the season at that point but in the wording they initially included "no less than until the end of the season and any playoff games they might qualify for). I think they rightfully view the incident as something that deserves to carry much harsher punishment than "suspended for the season" (which would be just 6-10 games) but since there is no real precedent, they are giving themselves time to try and weigh it right.

 

[redrum52]

I get that but can't common sense prevail under circumstances? This gives everybody enough time to get it right. Let's be honest - it was never going to be less than 6 games - I see no problems with calling it indefinite.

When they said indefinitely I assumed rest of season and reinstated over the summer. I think the league just wants it to die down while seeming like they are truly concerned about Myles' actions.

 

[allblackraven]

When they said indefinitely I assumed rest of season and reinstated over the summer. I think the league just wants it to die down while seeming like they are truly concerned about Myles' actions.

Yep, there's time factor as well.

 

[Ludy51]

Myles Garrett reporting that Rudolph claimed “This is Steelers country!” and yelled various racist and homophobic slurs.

 

[allblackraven]

Myles Garrett reporting that Rudolph claimed “This is Steelers country!” and yelled various racist and homophobic slurs.

Is Garrett g ay?

 

[rossihunter2]

statement from garrett: